The 25th of Never

Exhalt, what is the new release date for your new product?

What are you talking about?? Have you been to a port lately? The ONLY trucks they use now are Hysters. Sany falls apart in a week and you cant get parts. Hyster has the biggest product line out of all the competitors. A quick hop on the computer will tell you that. Oh...they actually make it. They dont buy someone else's product and repaint it.

Its not about ware Hyster are in 2019 it ware they will be in 2025, and looking at Hyster they wont be any ware near the top in Big trucks, Like i have said before Sany, Kalmar,Kone all sell more container handling equipment than Hyster. Also they all sell more trucks over 10,000kg than Hyster so you will need to check to see if the are the Global leader in big trucks.

LOL - Hyster become the # global leader in Big Truck sales in 2019. Its ok to like your product but you need to argue facts not feelings.

Exalt....the "mr know it all " of the material handling world......lol.... the same guy that assured us all that Kion was buying unicarriers.....we see how that worked out

Equipmentn depot now owned by Mitsubishi, how long with they continue to sell Sany product since owned by Chinese?

Come on down to Houston, TX. (10) years ago no one new Hyundai made a big truck, everybody laughed. Today when you drive around Houston, they are every where.

If Equipment Depot would stock them, as the dealer did in Texas, people will buy them.

If you spam enough dribble you are bound to be close to right at some point.

I See you found your crack pipe again.

see Sany have sold 11 reach stackers with equipment depot in Alabama pluss if you add the 5 reach stackers and 5 empty container handling forklift Cooper have sold in the UK. it wont be long before others manufactures are hurting from lossing orders

I agree with you on the price issue, In parts of Asia price is the main issue but in other markets price is not the main issue.

In North America , Europe and the Middle East the main issue will be sustainability of the product. In the trucking industry in North America they have brought out the Idling law. what you will find will be sustainability in big trucks will be firstly driven by laws on pollution then by customers who want to be seen by shareholders and their customers as sustainable companies, that work with the environment in mind. this is were the future will lie. Sany and other Chinese companies will see this as their opportunity to enter these markets

A low purchase price is not the top priority in the big truck market in the US. If it were Taylor wouldn't control the market. If a cheaper truck came to market and there was any issues; low quality, poor parts availability etc. they would never get another chance and word would spread very quickly.

Firstly you ovelsley don't know the technology out there today, this type of system has been shown to be more productive than hydraulic cylinders in other industries. What you have done is look at old material on the internet with out knowing what is coming in the future.

Like i have said the materials handling industry has a blinkered view on technology and is very slow to grasp new ideas. a bit like Nokia, Blackbury Toys R us and many of the other companies that have known about new technologies and just have died because they did not innervate.

The future of this industry has now turned a significant corner and new technologies are coming to disrupt the industry. Automation will change warehousing, energy generation will change the market for larger trucks and mobile container handling.

Customers want three main things today

1 Sustainability

2 efficiency

3 Operator drive ability

None of the OEM'S in this industry offer all these some offer different parts and some other different ideas. But known offer what the customer wants or needs. Why have Apple been able to change industries so easily. simple because they gave the customer what they wanted even though the customer didn't know they wanted it

Stam , RG Le Tourneau developed wheel motors and dc type steer systems back in the 40s and 50s. What you will notice is the loaders still use hydraulic to operate the buckets. If it was practical LE Tourneau would have done it by now. They use battery power to assist the drive train up hill and recharge them on the way down into the open pit mines. Screw jacks are not as fast as hydraulic systems and are much more prone to wear and tear. Thank you for your reply. Lets just face it. Exhalt needs a fishing license.

Stam, Firstly about the etruck technology especially battery technology has come along way in the last four years meaning this type of system is now coming into play. The big boys have blinkers on when comes to new technology and this is why companies like Apple, Airbnb, and others can come in and disrupts the working of an established Industry.


Second about Sany, what you will find with Sany is their equipment will improve over time like Toyota has done and wants it does it will become a major player in the big truck market. Sany will produce in Europe and North America giving better qualified staff to manufacture the trucks and better quality materials, meaning a better truck as the out come. In parts of Asia price is the important factor and Sany does well there. This is why Kalmar launched their essential range.

I could be wrong but over time i think Sany will improve their equipment in North America and Europe with local manufacturing and They will do well in Asia and South America from their China manufacturing base

Np triumphrider. Once I heard no oil I knew it had to be like the etruck.
I think your 100% correct on power consumption, I find it hard to believe the big guys would overlook this technology for the past 15 years. Leads me to believe battery tech isn't there yet and if so it's huge dollars with low lifespan.


Anyways I decided to check into sany some more. From the feedback I read on there excavators they are a low end unit that don't hold up like name brands. This is from operators directly "like an old komatsu" but sold as new. I was unable to find any info on there forklifts from end users.

Exalt what makes you think the forklift will be any different from there other equipment? Maybe your wrong?

The technology we use is not mine so i can't really comment on it as part of it is stil in a development stage.


But the principle is the same.


Sorry for being a bit challenging but like i have said its not my tech so i can't really go into to much detail

Stam, thank you for input. Sounds like a lot of current required to operate. Getting a straight answer from Exalt is a challenge.

It works on the same princeable, the technology has improved since 2002.