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TOYOTA EPA issues with 4Y/ productions suspended

from toyota industries website in Japan
EPA issues...is this another Volkswagen emissions type situation?


On April 28, 2021, Toyota Industries Corporation (TICO) announced that the shipment of some models of the engine-powered lift trucks manufactured by its subsidiary Toyota Material Handling, Inc. in Indiana, United States had been suspended due to delays in obtaining U.S. engine emissions certification.
TICO expects that the certification process will take more time and has decided to temporarily suspend the production of gas and liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) forklift models at Toyota Material Handling starting on June 1. We expect that Toyota Material Handling will restart production of these models once it obtains certification for engines.
  • Posted 23 May 2021 01:00
  • Discussion started by M_VANDENTOP
  • Michigan, United States
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Car & Driver article (I'd share the link but links don't work here, just google Toyota emissions fine) stated it was between 2005 and 2015 and it affected 78 automobiles. Not 78 models, 78 actual cars.

To me, that seems like a paperwork error. 78 cars is like spitting in the ocean.

VW fine was $14 billion so that pales in comparison with Toyota fine here.

I'm skeptical on govt fining Toyota for this and stopping production. Seems to be a shakedown that's all...
  • Posted 17 Jun 2021 21:53
  • Reply by M_VANDENTOP
  • Michigan, United States
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The fine was not for current production cars. It was for past production cars.
  • Posted 17 Jun 2021 21:49
  • Reply by DeadandBloated
  • Georgia, United States
Lift it!
What current production Toyota automobile sold in the USA uses the 4Y engine?
  • Posted 17 Jun 2021 21:35
  • Reply by M_VANDENTOP
  • Michigan, United States
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They were caught with incorrect fuel and emission numbers. Yes these are built in the USA that is why this is not being reported correctly, because it will affect jobs here. When VW cheated they were punished and it was all over the news. Toyota was cheating and paid a RECORD fine. Same engine from cars are in the lifts. They were reporting wrong numbers. Have any of you guys ever done a fuel comparison on a Toyota lift??? They are gas hogs.
  • Posted 17 Jun 2021 21:30
  • Reply by DeadandBloated
  • Georgia, United States
Lift it!
Does not matter if is a red or blue state where they are built, it is federal regs they are dealing with, not state.The current admin in Washington ,DC does not use common sense, just science. LOL
  • Posted 27 May 2021 20:09
  • Reply by triumphrider
  • Texas, United States
I really hope this is not politically motivated with Indianapolis a red state. It couldn't be....could it? Seems everything is political nowadays. what happened to plain old right & wrong & let the working folks look after their families? LPG forklifts emissions.....how bad can they be in the big picture? All the forklift in North America in a year putting out about the same carbon footprint as China in a half a day? No facts to substantiate that claim but might not be that far off? Thousands of people's income being affected at terrible time for that & how many older not as efficient forklifts are being kept in service while waiting for these new truck that aren't allowed to be delivered? I personally have trucks held up in this with customer waiting for their new equipment. I'm in Canada & I don't believe we are bound by the EPA so why can't they ship "for export" trucks? It just smells a little off....pun intended.
  • Posted 26 May 2021 06:01
  • Reply by chris_johnson
  • Ontario, Canada
caj1200
Sounds like a government shakedown to me. I would think that the emissions for off road equipment is not as stringent as highway vehicles but then again Tier 4 emissions requirements for diesels are here to stay.
  • Posted 26 May 2021 02:10
  • Reply by triumphrider
  • Texas, United States
In January 2021 Toyota automotive paid a $180 million fine to EPA for emissions violations. Wonder if EPA started poking around the forklift division after seeing what was going on in automotive...
I'd share a link but it doesn't work here
Car & Driver story said...
Between 2005 and 2015, Toyota failed to follow proper reporting procedures for emission-related issues with its vehicles in the U.S. market, according to a settlement it just reached with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

Reading that story it seems the automotive division issue was largely a paperwork/reporting issue, not a VW situation, it is crazy the level of power the Feds have with this sort of issue...
  • Posted 25 May 2021 23:52
  • Reply by M_VANDENTOP
  • Michigan, United States
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It is being reported (unofficially) that Toyota has accumulated, since January 2021, approximately 10,000+ completed lift trucks and they have been stored in warehouses throughout Indiana waiting for the "paperwork" to clear EPA. What's not clear is whether or not the resolution is truly just paperwork, or if Toyota will need to go back touch each truck with some type of change. If the latter becomes the case, are the changes only required on those 2021 model year trucks, or do the changes need to be made on trucks built prior to 2021. This is a very unfortunate situation for Toyota and our hearts and prayers should go out to the Indiana plant workers and all the Toyota dealer personnel that work so hard every day to feed their families. The ripple effect throughout the industry will undoubtedly be massive!
  • Posted 25 May 2021 01:00
  • Reply by Irvington
  • California, United States

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