Who is the best in Electric Trucks? Lest discuss and find out?
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Perhaps someone can explain the difference (as far as the completed product goes) between 2 electric motors, whose only difference is who owns the plant that built the motor?
A failed motor can come out of a manufacturing facility, no matter who owns that facility.
If we were trying to differentiate because of some design spec, this would be far more understandable, but to say that because less people can see the failures makes it better some how, , does not make for less failures, just less people seeing them.
Re: Everyone keep in mind, Crown is the only Manufacturer that builds their own electric motors vs outsourcing them.
I think Linde and Jungheinrich have a joint facility manufacturing their own motors called Juli.
You obviously lead a sheltered life lifttruckjedi. Milehighlynne has it correct.
Now I wonder whos best with all the ac systems out there
Without a doubt, NMHG (Hyster / Yale) make the best sit-down electric forklift. They have dominated the North America market and have the best productivity and energy efficiency in the market.
Crown equipment ( walkie stackers , RC302030's RR4-5000 etc ) , seems to go thru our shop with relativley small / minor problems on pre delivery inspections. They hold value , have a quality name , sell quick , and parts are generally easy to obtain / avail.
Response to edward t: "I'll second that motion", Ed!!
+1,
I would even be willing to argue that is what really make a difference between brand a and brand b. it is the training, understanding, care and concern the dealers and techs have for the product.
I think that makes at least as much a difference as the design of the product, and much more than the corporate purchases of brands or components. The Sales pitch counts for MUCH less, in the long run.
Maybe we should start a new thread about how to get a tech to care, and another thread about which/who has the best or most understandable Tech training...
Response to edward t: The statement you made "Cared for by the same group of guys" has to be factored in, with the emphasis on "cared for"..... Proper maintenance and repairs are the key to the life expectantcy of any brand.
these guys took the inching valves and controls and pedals off the IC trucks, as soon as they got the trucks, so they have never had the brake fluid leak into the transmission, and they moved the controls on the stand-up straddle and reach trucks, to be mounted under the overhead guard to keep the battery acid from dripping down on them. they say about 1/2 have never had a trans or diff problem at all.
Ill give ya that one ed old clarks ar build out of nails you cant get them to die
when I see fleets* of 30 year old Toyotas running 24/7 still, then we can be sure they make the best units.
Yesterday, I visited a company who's products we all see and use all the time, who runs 2 shifts normally and 3 shifts about 1/2 a year, who has as the major part of a 200 unit (most are small tugs and pack-mule types, but 65 to 70 units, 90% of the forklifts) are C500-50 and NST Clarks. These units (late 70s, early 80s) have all been cared for since new by the same group of guys and they see no reason yet to trade into new units, unless the units are free. When you can point me to a fleet of toyotas that age, doing that much work still, then we talk about "best units"....
most sales, and most potential sales, does not necessarily exactly equal "best". your mileage may vary.
But I do expect to see 30 year old fleets of Toyotas and/or Raymonds, in another 20 years...
(Ratos? toy-ray? or does the proud (and Anglo) Raymond name go away in 10 more years?)
Check the Fortune 500 website....Raymond/Toyota is #1
I would like to add that Linde and jungheinrich have their own joint venture motor manufacturing facility in Czech republic and have done for approx 15 years.
And to add to Budmans reply, Crown no longer uses EV100 in any truck. It is all access 123. except some smaller walkies, the 30TSP, and the 40TS. And the latter 2 are only until the design change.
Everyone keep in mind, Crown is the only Manufacturer that builds their own electric motors vs outsourcing them. They made this change a few years ago. This way, they keep it in house and can control quality. In other words, Crown's are more Crown than any other Mnf. can claim about their own lifts.
to compare the older raymond and mitsu units
the mitsu unit, with ev100 and the interface card that basically mimics a truck built for ev100 for one that was built for raymonds system, seems... redundant
the raymonds are always a lil easier to work with (provided you know the superword and have the manual) and the trucks were built with their system in mind
the jungheinrich jacks i dont like they just dont seem as strong as even the old raymond 101's
ill still recommend a linde ew(r)60-02 over what ive seen so far in AC jacks
Just a different look into things. Mits,cat, and yale used to all be built by raymond just with the ev-100 system, crown uses ev-100, mits and cat are jungheinrich now. Raymond uses its own system but it is expensive..how much difference is there really in the narrow aisle and sit down market? Crown is known for it's thicker frames as well as clark, the rest are basically the same. Even most ac units use the same zapi system...all bias aside is there a lot of variety in this market?
My crowns dont break and they are run in a blast freezer.Bigest thing I replace is handels where they break them off by hitting everything in the building
ive been working on all brands for 10 years now
heres my opinion based on what ive seen
for narrow isle - raymond
for sitdowns - linde/toyota tied
this is based on frequency of downtime in regards to environment, component quality, and end user opinions (from people ive taked to)
electric jack - raymond tm and linde ewr60-02 tied (based on performance in a -20 degree fahrenheit freezer with many brands)
crown is pretty bad, high frequency of downtime
of course no unit will survive long if not properly maintained
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