For those simple folk, like me who don't speak southern ****, I will translate what Hawk means.

Apparently Nissan have lost the plot, big time, handed the problem over to ATLET, employed ex ATLET/Toyota bods to come up with the rescue plan, cos apprently they KNOW what THEY are doing!

Will the 'xtremely successful global organization' get it right? Look at their record - how long did it take to get the cars right? The commercials are now build by Vauxhalls. The marine engine company was put in it's own little box in the USA cos the car company didn't understand it and they sold off the diesel engine company cos they didnt understand that either.

Ummmm, these people must be really bright!! Or really stupid, we'll see guys!!!

I may be wrong but I have a hunch that being that the Company owners have a superb track record of exellence in very careful strategic planning as an extremely successful global organization in order to achieve the best results for their business' be it Cars, light commercials, marine engines or MHE, we should therefore expect part of their plan to achieve their desired goals be to have experts who have perhaps worked for their UK wholly owned subsidary in the past, have sales experience in their historical non core product lines (warehouse equipment) and as a bonus perhaps had great experience in running a sales dept for a dealership of another manufacturer from the same country of origin whereby that dealership may have been aquired and integrated into the new Direct operation lead by the Warehouse truck segment, which was, previous to the 'merger' a wholly owned subsidary also for a few years, in other words, get the right person in as 'integration manager' in order to offer the smoothest transition possible to a UK direct operation and if possible have an inner understanding of the issues, teething problems and unforseen mistakes perhaps made by a previous integration of a remarkably similar arrangement and srategic model.

Having had a rumoured non satisfactory experience in terms of results, of relying on a new main dealer and then not continuing this arrangement within around three years surely if this once renowned major ( counterbalance at least) player is to kick on rather than blow full time I believe it will be by going this way, not sure how the emphasis on maintaining and then increasing the counterbalance volume and focus will affect the 'to date' highly respected and traditionally good reputation of their Swedish origin UK operations in the market going forward. It's all in the balance!.. or is the strategy being implemented and 'integrated' right under our noses!! I just hope that some of the good, loyal and comitted guy's and gals are treated respectfully and fair as I have seen other great servants to the brand in my opinion less so.

Well the question was " What's happening at Nissan"? & this is just my guess, hunch, opinion! Regardless, Good Luck to all out there, keep on forktrucking folks!!!!

mrLiftyboy its so good to see some of the THE BIG BOYS put you in your place LITTLE MAN ive read some of the attacks on you as i eat my CHIPS and sip my CHAMPERS and not a CHop STick in sight. Nissan is in tatters we all know it when you appoint dealers with 12 staff and not even a demo fleet its GOODBYE FROM HIM......

Oh, the cries of Nissan support are deafening my ears!!!

I thought you'd at least come up one thing good at Nissan Mr Shifty seeing as you know so much!!! Perhaps all those years in the industy have left you tired and worn out!

Hi Mates;
I believe, if I may,I like to put my two pence into this discussion Mates. Not having eyes on the ground in the UK, but it seems to me I was hearing this same gloom and doom talk from the codger fifty years ago. Don't know of any UK Jungheinrich dealers but we have seen what has happened to Jungheinrich dealers in the States. Did the Jungheinrich product up and disappear in the States? The answer is NO it just reinvented the wheel and joined forces with MCF of Houston, TX - USA. Not knowing what is going on in the board room at Nissan, Tokyo - Japan. I've seen a large number of changes that have happened in the power industrial truck market world wide. Let's take this way we are carrying on this conversation. We need to keep in the forefront, that a manufacturer who doesn't keep their eyes and ears tuned, often find themselves on the outside looking in. So, the point I am making, keep the conversation going and just maybe your voices will be heard.

I think you need to do the same thing as the Welshman and the 'bright' one - accept that you're old news and hang your boots up Mr Shifty!

There is a saying " if you don't look after your Customers"...

Not much upsets me Mrliftyboy! And I'm not an ex Nissan employee.

Sound's to me like you've got the voice of a Nissan employee desperate to believe that everythings fine and there aren't any problems. Ok, you're there for now, but for how long?

I know my trucks matey, and Nissans used to be THE hire truck. Now though they're just a cheap piece of shiny spanish steel. Not the great truck of old!

Even the dealers aren't keen on the new stuff, especially the ATLET warehouse kit.

Like I said, everybody else has good news to share, with you guys at Nissan it's just not there.

If you know your stuff like you say you do Mrliftyboy then tell us all what's so great about Nissan. We should all take your silence as there isn't anything good Nissan!

I agree with Daryl, I don't think you know one end of a truck from another or the industry in general. OR......maybe you're an ex-Nissan employee with a huge chip on your shoulder...!!!!!!
Either way, I can assure you that you are wrong on all counts. Nissan Forklifts are still here AND will be for a very long time.

Hope that hasn't upset you too much Liftupnorth..!!?

The Doosan product is still a match for the Nissan though, and competes against Toyota and Mitsi well enough.

Carrylift came close, but backed away last minute I believe, but it's no surprise that Mexmast are leaving Nissan (does anyone know where?) which is a sign all isn't well with the new way of doing things!!!

Nissan just don't seem interested in trucks anymore, they want to sell mini vans and odd looking cars instead, that's why they've moved fork trucks into it's own little company controlled by ATLET people (BT/TOYOTA anyone?)!! Got to be bad news!!!

Carrylift will probably go next, though as they're owned by a corporation who already works with Doosan.

The smaller dealers will probably end up selling ATLET counterbalance as and when.

All the other players are making headway at the moment, but Nissan are going backwards, fast.

The Doosan Pro5 is poor,Transmissions poor, drive axles still failing.Valves burning on certain engines,old G33p/3 catching fire because of a poorly placed cable clip.Took them ages to admit to those faults.The writing was on the wall,doosan lost a big customer.

You have either bought into all the doosan nonsense or you don`t know one end of a forklift from the other. Doosan a good product not really poor quality materials and bad transmission.
I don`t know if these stories of stobarts not being able to get rid of them fast enough but where there is smoke there is allways fire. Plus the fact if you look at the companys profit and loss the forklift division has made nothing for a good few years. this from info supplied by forklift action.

Doosan have a pretty good product offering and from what I've seen are the only player celebrating any success in the market. They want good dealers to add to the others they have.

They are the ones to watch over the next few years in my opinion. Dismiss them at your peril guys because I bet you will be going head to head with Doosan more and more, and quite frequently losing business you thought was in the bag!

And no, I don't work for Doosan!!!

Doosan have moved from one dealer to the next over the last few years, hardly a great advert for a stable and trustworthy business relationship for anyone to take on.

sure Nissan won't walk away from this business. A lot of service work still out there. Atlet will move in

Well it looks like the game is well and truely over for nissan... I'm told that Carrylift, Mexmast and HFT are all going to become Doosan dealers. We knew the market would loose a player, looks like it's going to be Nissan!! Still, frees it's up a bit for the rest of us now.

I heard today that Acclaim are dropping Still and are going the Nissan route, not sure if its just the rumour mill in action though??

From my personal experience he is a very successful and knowlegeable sales & Marketing professional who ran a very professional Toyata dealer sales team - good luck to Derek although I think he is going to need it I'm sure the Pampolona guys will help out... as well as adding some heavyweight dealers to add to the key ones in my opinion like HFT and Liftwest. Best to write off the past two or three years and look forward I believe.

Nissan have a new general manager i see from their press release. Anyone know anything about Derek Robson?

I take it you work for atlet then coal miner. Its strange atlet seem to get the scraps left on the table by the big 3 as you dont see much atlet kit about and that speaks volumes to there market share.

Atlet are tagged a bit like still trucks , if the engineer cant sort them in 5 minutes they are crap, maybe if the engineers had the appropriate training and electrical background then I don't think they would be such a hassle, but for the people who can sort them they are a great truck,worked on Atlets for years , would rather work on Atlet as any other warehouse machine and i have worked on them all ,