Just seen the spec sheet for the new Linde 10 ton fork lift. Woo what a shocker. It Weight is 18,297KG its width is 2545mm and its length is 5961mm it runs a Cummins EGR engine. Feel sorry for Linde hope there attempt with the new 6,000kg-8,000kg is going to be better or they might as well just keep to small trucks
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Johnr J
that was normal
Trucks were put together with anything they could find
Supplier problems at the time !!!!!!!?????
No 2 trucks were ever the same
Company only kept going because of exceptional local after sales service.
Dave
My opinion is that ge Germans never forgave him for " stealing " Steinbock from under their noses and wanted it back at any price.
Just my opinion.
Normandy,
I agree with your comments on Sir NBS. I worked with him and his side kick Trevor when LB had a private label agreement with Allis Chalmers for their side loaders & large capacity pneumatic. He was arrogant then and those were they days before he was "knighted".
His company would send us the same model truck with different transmissions, engines and no advanced notification. But we would hear "Oh, I'm sorry and I'll look into it" that never happened cause it would happen again.
On top of that his equipment never seem to hold up well in the US market. We lost good customers over this.
No he just makes me laugh. I'd give up rather than go into China. We don't even look to work there if we did there would be copies by the end of the Month. Look at kalmar they went in set up a plant and the Chinese just blatantly copied them. Look at the Samuk BY 14 if that's not a Kalmar Copy than i don't know what is.
In a way i do feel sorry for him because Junghierich did use the German banks to get Boss. Like you said there were some very good engineers that were at Boss and they should have been listened to things might be different there. One strange thing though can't work out why Junghienrich got out of big trucks could have run them under the Boss name and done well but they wanted out they only wanted VNA trucks and junghienrich never wanted to sell Boss i have the sales doc and they never wanted to sell.
Yes
But NBS is one of the most arrogant men in the world.
In his time he had some of the best staff available but he never listened to any of them. If he did just maybe he would still have control of LB.
I also remember how he was scathing about not only the Japanese but would howl with laughter about a Chinese forklift. Look what happened then !!!!!!!!.
Don't use him as a guideline or you will end up in China.
Hi normandy
We have not given up on Shaw , Shaw will still produce the iLift in the 6,000kg - 8,000kg we have had to just move the big trucks out for investment reasons. This has allowed us to be able to move forward with the project. Like i have said it has been hard work and if i knew back then what i know now i would have done things different. I allays remember Sir Neville Bowman Shaw wants saying that if he was to go back into manufacturing he would need he head testing. I understand why
Thanks powerlifter. the people that did the video put a lot of hard work into it so when people say its good it is appreciated. All parts used in it come from European suppliers like Mercedes Benz so quality is top of our priorities. Because we are a new set up and don't need lairs of management and have a unique manufacturing process that allows us to be highly competitive when it comes down to price. What we really understand is customer service and what the customer expects for a long time customers have not really been given the service they require and with our exchange system that allow's for customers to be able to have there truck back in service in under a fixed time if a fault was to arise.Mercedes Benz have a saying the best or nothing we understand this and follow the same prince-able
Dave
To be fair I think we all would love you to succeed. It is a brave thing that you are doing and I agree that you have put a lot of effort into it.
Maybe we all would loved to have the courage and connections with cash to try it.
Sometimes when you try the impossible it works.
Shaw had good ideas as well but they did not make it work.
Be Realistic as well.
Dave
This may be a cartoon but it's a good one and i personally can see alot of hard work and time as gone into doing it.
People need to look beyond the cartoon and see what is on offer.
I really hope the development,your investment and business grows because of it.
Been along time since an outside manifacturer decided to challenge the well known one's.
Lets hope it does'nt follow in the same footsteps as alot of the other cheap Rubbish from Asia.
I really wish you luck and if it turns out to be as good as you say, i personally will look forward to working on it.....
We will be very competitive on price. You say Linde is a safe option we use Mercedes Benz engines.These are one of the worlds best companies and produce world class products some of which we use. Also as i have pointed out customers we have spoken to have all pointed out that they would use our products for the service we can deliver at the price we will charge. Kalmar might be at the top at the moment but they won't be there in 5 years time. They have not made any significant development over the last 10 years and kone have caught them with a similar product but again these are still way behind what we can offer. We have Saudi partners who are not just coming into this to be another manufacture they want to be the best and we are setting the new standards for forklift design.
Dave. This remains a price sensitive market. You have the premium Scandinavian suppliers at the top - the Koreans and Japanese at the bottom and the remaining European manufactured trucks somewhere in the middle. Where do you see your machine fitting amongst these?
Moreover, if it is a hydrostatic, why would a customer not buy the safe option of Linde instead?
Thirst i would like to point out that the video was done for internal use and our Saudi partners. The lad who did this is very talented and worked very hard to do this,Must say if your Children can do this then they must be really talented. You do raise some good point though. First the time it has taken like i pointed out it is not like setting up service company it much harder and than i first thought. You also pointed out that if a company was looking to purchase 5 1.5 ,10 3, 2 8, and 1 10. when the 8 and 10 truck suffer brake down then they have a problem. We will be able to get the trucks back in service in under 5 hours can Kalmar , Kone ,Linde , Hyster do this. Also we will be around 20%-30% more fuel efficient than these trucks. When you look at all the other manufactures they have not made any major changes over the last 30 Years only Linde have made some type of improvement but this is still a long way behind what we have done so being a top 6 manufacture won't be that hard.Who want's a truck that has not improved for 30 years would you want a car that is based on technology that is 30 years old. Kone is basically the same as a Kalmar Hyster is not that good Linde is very expensive Taylor and Hoist basically stay in North America Doosan Hyundai and the Chinese are not up to scratch.and the new Clark is a Omega that's basically the same as a Doosan
Your machine is going to have to be very good for any one to even have a look. If I put myself in the shoes of a potential customer who wants 5, 1.5 tonne, 10, 3 tonne, 2, 8 tonne and a 10 tonne machine how many will you be able to supply? If the answer is just the last 3 then why should I do business with you? I will just get the lot from Linde or Hyster. Even if you just compete in the large truck arena you will not have the product range to compete with SMV, Kalmar etc.
I also think the aim of being in the top 6 heavy truck suppliers in 6 years is a bit steep. You have been talking about this one machine for two years and all there is to show for it is a cartoon my children could have made.
Don't get me wrong, I do wish you the best of luck with this and I hope you succeed, I am just being realistic.
The Video was done for our partners in Saudi. We are set to recruit staff towards the end of the year. When three demo trucks are to be placed with a major Saudi company for some test work.Then full production will start on the modular for each machine. The Saudi's have experience of production and we have some strong supplier partners who top class products that are well proven. It may seem to look a bit like a Linde but it is totally different in shape and the only thing similar is they both use hydrostatic transmission. We Use a 4 cyl 4.8L engine where Linde use a 6cyl 6.7L engine. But yes it's the first significant change in forklift design for 20years. I must admit tho it's some times is hard to set up a new dealership so to start with a totally new manufacture was harder than i first thought this is why it has taken so much time. But know we have creditable Saudi partners we should start to get to are aim of being a top 5 heavy forklift manufacture with in 6 years
Dave the youtube bit is still a cartoon !
Have you actually built a complete machine yet.
Is the factory in place
Have your production staff been recruited
Machines running off the production line soon !!!
when 2months, 6months, 2 years. !!!!!
having said all that your line drawings look nice and I hope you succeed but is it real or fantasy ?
Dave, it looks like a Linde. Was that done on purpose? It is driverless too!
what do we look up on youtube ?
Yes the factory is being sorted and the video is on youtube first trucks wil be rolling of production line soon , I don't know how much the EGR filter will weigh but it wont be heavy. the truck is around 2,000kg much heavier than some competitors. The 10,000kg truck ahave increased the fuel capacity but they will need that. What is going to be interesting looking at most manufactures have gone with the EGR system but this needs to be changed for 2014 tier 4 final to SCR. This is the important part because it will need more development cost's and on the smaller engine can the engine manufactures aford the development cost's that will be needed.Will some companies just decide they don't need to spend the capital on a truck that they won't sell much of in Europe and US. It will be interesting to see what happens 2012 is not far away so the companies who want to participate will need be ready.
Dave
Are you the same chap as Davie160 who was going to manufacture large machine in the middle east ?
if so what happened.
Dave. Any idea how much the soot filters on the EGR system weigh? Given that they will be hot and presumably heavy, will it need an external lifting souce to change the filters each time?
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