Hi

Thanks everyone for the reply. i am going to change jobs and give it a try.
I can not really come up with any reasons not to the auto biz is going down hill fast.
birdman we have the same problem no young guys want to come in and then the ones you get have no clue and no common sense to think something out but i can see why.
you look at the amount of money you invest in tools the poor benefits the hours with no overtime and fighting to even make 40 a week with the flat rate system.

I think something has to change or you will be seeing all the good guys leave. Dont get me wrong i love working on cars love the challenge of them, but comes a time where i need to do something to provide for my family I waited long enough to try to see it change suggested ideas until i was blue but why would you change anything when you can have someone there all day and if he only makes 5 hours oh well
Once they change the flat rate system and the amount of warrenty they factory wants to pay you then maybe everything else will change

so off I go onto a new adventure and looking forward to it I have been excited about the change

thanks everyone