So, when is this machine going to be available for sale , service, etc. You keep jumping around on these forums like you are trying to dodge us. As far as yale /hyster is concerned nobody on these forums know as much as the yale /hyster corporations management teams. So what if they go Chinese/ how do you not know that the Chinese might one day decide to buy your company. No matter where you are at in todays world MONEY TALKS B/S walks