I'm hearing Briggs are about to open there well funded cheque book again, and buy out some local competition in selected areas. The rumours are they are looking at a business in the northeast and two in the northwest. Happy days if you work for those company's cause your wages are going up. No secret that the Briggs lads are on around 2k a year more then most
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Just look at the mess they have made of DLS. Almost twenty years of profit and good relations with the customer under BW ruined in less than two with these ignorant idiots.
You can buy a successful business but you cannot buy success. You have to work for it.
Yet another missed opportunity... Briggs did exactly the same when they bought out Lex Harvey... Lost most of the business that they acquired and ended up being no bigger than they were before they spent the Americans millions. Too much "US" and them again continually blaming the bought out company staff instead of concentrating on finding out who the good one's are from both company's and building up a knowledge base to help the company move forward, but oh no the old boys circle stays the same !!! Giving customers a service not talking about it in that frigging joke company comic...
Feel sorry for the people in Cannock that have been made redundant, it wont be long before the engineers are in the same boat as I hear some are sitting about with no work to do... Top men need to go this time !!!
Buying other forklift companies is not the answer to success, many have tried this and failed due to there fleets being tied and ready for the scrap heap, Briggs have only grown in this way,and not by customer satisfaction,look at the real players,Linde,Toyota,best kit and good Rv,s at the end of the contract,that's what will give you success.Briggs are paying around 26k but the smaller companies are paying 30k if you know your trucks and with this, comes the people factor I,e we are humans not machines
Totally agree DonkeyPunch re the old boys club. What a threat to the big boys Briggs could have been. Opportunity missed by them.
Buying companies only gives you scale and coverage, growing organically at the same times doubles or trebles your total impact to the market.
It is a shame for those involved in these cut backs, the redundancy message say's control cost, not attack the market.
You have summed it up, until you get rid of the old boys club at the top, not much will change, for the better. Buying Nacco, even if they did have enough money wouldnt be the answer because they would mess that up too.
I agree with clockwatcher, i would not call sales men shady but you will find the engineers blame the sales reps , the sales reps blame the office staff, the office staff blame the company cat, But really the blame if any lies with the Directors the people at the top who come up with the strategy, how to compete with lower cost manufactures who will be doing well, the Lower cost service companies who are interdependent who will be doing well. Because from what we are told the market is picking up and there is quite a lot of business out there so some must be getting it.
The right move fro Briggs is just go and buy NACCO and then you will have the solution,
By the very nature of their job the salesmen are a shady bunch but their ways of working and limits are set by the directors so it would be unfair to blame them for the failings of the company. The old boys club at the top will always be responsible for whether we fail or succeed.
I do think the sales force and their management have a lot to answer for.
I hope that you are right, but if trucks arnt sold and the customers go away, as many long term BW customers continue to do, less engineers will be required. On the positive side good engineers will not be out of work for long. Simple answer to your statement on the structure will be a resounding NO, arrogance is the same no matter what accent it is spoken in. Reducing staff is not the answer, getting more business is, and if you cant then you need to find out why and get it sorted, and I doubt it is the salesmen fault......
The engineers earn the money, everybody else is an overhead. Have these people learnt nothing from the top heavy structure of BW.
is at least a breath of fresh air that the engineers are not on the hit list...... yet
We've all grown used to the Friday afternoon emails thanking sales people for their work and wishing them well as they pursue their careers outside the company......but this is the twitching zone!
Yep 55 in total, mostly admin staff, no field based employees are at risk right now.
The US owners have apparently pulled the finance plug, so they will have to go to one of the big finance companies and borrow money now.
They are still profitable, just haven't grown as much as they should to warrant so many office based staff.
Load of engineers vans on the car park every time I've been, any idea where engineers are going to?
Also, i bet all 5 (yes 5!!!) Sales Directors are getting twitchy right now!
it's right about the redundancys, most technical roles in the service centre, 4 from parts, quality management and service tech, managers, some from the workshops, 55 in total, all good fun!
I hear this but it only back office staff and Middle management. About 50 in total. When I worked for them Mr Richard Close said in a meeting and I quote " if there are any more redundancy, I will be first to go" that was about 8 years ago and he's still there.
I think the Briggs check book is open only to pay redundancy at the moment. Understand that about 100 have to go across the board. Seems that promises of cake tomorrow to the funder have worn thin.....Not to say they wont buy anything but maybe this is the price to be paid..the livleyhoods of hard working joes and jills. It would be good if there management had the skill to make the company grow naturally rather than buy companies made the efforts of others, then sack off the people who actually know how to run a successful business. Happy days the magic roundabout makes another revolution.
Under the TUPE rules your basic salary will remain the same if you are on more than 26,910. You will be ring fenced until briggs basic catches up to your level.
If you are on less money than briggs pay their guys your wage will go up if you accept changes to your contract.
Briggs seem to be paying just short of 27k to most of their engineers...
Not according to the Briggs engineers I know. Got an idea who one in the North west will be and the engineers I know there will loose money if they were working for Briggs. Wages seem abouth the same whoever you work for and with the shortage of good engineers seem to be on the up, at least one of the big players are offering new starters 26k and as much overtime as they want
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