Of course the best Walkie Stacker is made by Linde

if you go buy ITA numbers raymond and crown get about 60% of the market share. Which means 40% is split between another 14 manufactors or so.

still,komatsu!

Have you heard of 'Wilmat'. They are made in England. Their walkie trucks operate in the smallest gangways. They are heavy duty and need very little maintenance. They do not have a dealer in your area yet but could be maintained by any good flt repairer.
50% of their production go to other fork truck companies and many are rented out. Wilmat also manufacture trucks for special applications or to meet special conditions. They manufacture trucks from 300kg capacity up to 12.5tonnes, straddle stackers up to 4000kg as well as platform trucks and tow tractors. Put Wilmat into google and look at their website.

the best one RAYMOND model 8400

HYSTER/YALE has it down a very simple machine no wires from control handle wrapped around the motor to break. Small profile. Replaceable buttons on control handel.

RMG1
Comments as follows:

1. I am familiar with fast charge systems etc. But I think teh jury is still out on teh life expectancy of batteries used wit hthese systems. And since teh intial investment is high the market opportunity seems to be the large fleet users that work muliple shifts - say food processing, auto industry (but not right now) and the like.

2. My comments regarding batteries/charger were relative to the battery packs used in low lift walkies. Several customers I had that used the wet type battery pack experienced longer battery life than w/the MF packs.

johnr, that is what I used to think as well. Charger technology is changing somewhat and more is being discovered with the amount of amps being put back into the battery thereby keeping the true enemy - heat - to a minimum. I believe this is what is behind the explosion of "fast' and "opportunity" of lead acid batteries. "Fast chargers can be 4-5x the price of a regular charger while opportunity chargers are about 2x the price. Batteries for fast charge systems require extensive modification while opportunity batteries require little.

I do understand what you are saying about the Pallet pro system though - hardly an advanced charger onboard. :)

It does not mean that, what was explained to me by a GNB/Exide Tech guy is that continually opportunity charging can led to issues that result in customer dissatisfaction. I would suggest you talk to your local rep for more in site.

What batterty experts have always told me, including cell phone batteries, a battery has so many charge cycles, like 1400 - 1600 range. And every time you hook up to the charger even for a short period it counts for 1 cycle.

Thanks johnr. Why is GNB downplaying this? Does this mean their Mtce. Free Pallet Pro package cannot be be opportunity charged? Thanks!

RMG1,
GNB (Exide Technologies) now down plays the opportunity charging benefits of their MF battery packs and MF Industrial battery lines.

Raymond also has the 6 volt wet cell non maintenance free battery package. I do know Raymond prefers to sell the small walkie with the maintenance free power pack though, for 3 reasons; a) the chances of proper maintenance being done is about zero and b) the maintenance free package has a higher amp hour output, 190 vs. 160 and c) the maintenance free package can be opportunity charged.

Linde are good walkies.

Did anyone read btroberts reply? I thought "true" salesmen were a thing of the past. You go Robert sell the s**t out of them son!

sir,

i really recomend the 2 high qualit product the:

raymond walkies and bt levio depends on your application..

Raymond they make a great lift and have the best overall aftermarket support

there is a raymond dealer in Austailia and new zeland

This is to correct the response by the gentleman who claimed the Yale jack only comes with 4 wet six volt batteries:
It is "standard" but the salesman could offer them the Champion battery pack as an option for more $$. If the wet batteries are serviced frequently and properly the end user would have a hard time telling the difference. I used to sell Yale equipment.....

As a customer, local dealer suppoort is very important to us. Some of the models metioned here may be the best, but if your local dealer support is bad at best, I will look at other brands.

Hi John,

I know EP brand in China, it is a trading company in China. When you buy the EP products?maybe their service changed now;

i aggre with you that service is a problem for China equipement, and also this the problem for most suppliers.

Anyhow, thanks for your sincere comment. I want to be friends with you, my hotmail: wanglapeter(at)hotmail.com. i really want to make some communications on that.

peter w
Just something to think about when you say good service will that some time. The end users does not understand this very easily when his machine is down. I sold an EP pallet truck and lost a customer because "getting parts for whatt should have been a warranty issue - controller failure" took time - 76 days. Then the warranty claim was denied by EP our company absorbed the cost of the controller. This was the first EP and last I ever sold & the last. This is what we call a "lose lose lose situation" - meaning our company lost a customer, our company lst money on the sale and EP lost future sales, all do due waiting for good service to happen.

Just remember there already many long time established brands in the US that can provide good service. To try to compete with them you need to have comparable service capabilites from day one - not just a good price. The customer forgets about the price he paid for it when he can't get good service.