Thanks for your replies on this one and most of what you have stated Andrew is what i have found out for myself from other websites. Thing is we are not talking about a two bit company and only the other week a driver tipped a wine pallet from 25 ft. Luckily enough there was no one in the opposite aisle other wise there would have been a fatality. The driver lifted the pallet up just an inch as what is required but didn't notice that the middle strut of the pallet was slightly damaged and hanging down. On retrieving the pallet his forks came out the pallet about 8 inches and the pallet broke underneath on the weaker under strut of the pallet.