Yes practically it will be a done deal now. It won't be announced till later this year but it will be all done and over before the end of the summer

But this will lead now to more take overs quickly especially NACCO depending on both Toyota and KION who will get NACCO will change the market place for many years to come. Or this will be the opening up of the market as these two companies dominate allowing smaller more innovative companies to come along and change things. Not only in equipment on offer but also the technology used as well to offer better services and lowering cost's


KION in a way has set this with the New 6 - 8 ton electric truck from Linde is the same chassis and i bet many components from the Still electric and diesel truck in the same range. Toyota are re-branding BT here in Europe as they push this for the warehouse equipment here. They are also doing well with Raymand in North America and both manufactures have say in the lower cost machines , KION Baoli and Toyota in Tailift.

So in the in fight for domination between what is now seen as Toyota and KION who will suffer and who will gain will there be the obvious job cuts and factory closers as these two become more efficient will dealers lose out as one company favours one brand over another. Or will we just see to big brands go up against each other to keep on dominating the market.

Exalt, are you saying the Kion/Unicarriers thing is a done deal?

Looks like i'm shocked and surprised never thought a Japanese company would sell to the Chinese but Looks like KION have bought Unicarrier.

What they now do will be a challenge could be a large benefit to both Hyundai and Doosan but who is next and how will this change the market. Less independent manufactures and KION and Toyota have over 75% of market turnover will this effect choice and prices.


Still think there are a couple more shocks to come from both KION and Toyota. KION still need to strengthen in North America while Toyota have nothing really in the Big truck market. NACCO will be the next big challenge who out of these two will get them and then will the other go for Kalmar., and were will this leave Briggs


Then who else might go komastu look shot Clark will struggle some of the Chinese will go into bigger Chinese companies Mitts and CAT might look at other options but for now just looks like the big two will try to dominate

None of this is news. If one has a knowledge of history, or at least understands the history of this business, one would realize that history is again repeating itself. With that said I think you need to study the history and truly understand this business. Look at Clark Equipment in the late 70's thru late 80's. Or further back to the brokered deals between Clark Equipment and TCM shortly after WWII. Thanks MacArthur!
Nothing new here for me, just the same old garbage in a repackaged form for a different generation.
Clark Equipment sold the USA control to the Germans and Japanese... The Japanese in turn sold out this industry to China!.... China, well you figure it out. This is really a small industry, no matter what you think!

Two points here Point one will KION buy Uni carrier 100% no. No Japanese company would ever sell to a Chines company what KION now is , look at Linde Hydraulics in Germany Investment and jobs have been cut in Germany and moved to China so who ever came up with this is just a smoke screen probably to make MHI move for Uni Carrier. Will MHI buy Uni carrier yes plus Komatsu to make one large company. You are going to find that this market the materials handling market will be dominated by two countries Japan and China forget all the others these are going to be the main two. Korea will see Hyundai take over Clark and either Sammons or Doosan will buy NACCO, Jungheinrich will tye up with MHI as well and these three companies Toyota , KION, and MHI will control most of the market over 70%. KION will buy other companies but these will be mainly Chinese companies or Even Heli will buy KION.


Point two dealers the role of the Dealer will change dramatically over the next five to ten years and you will see more manufactures taking charge of sales with dealer looking after the service who will be success full in this will all depend on who will offer the best service. Now you might say well here in the US this will not happen or here in the Middle east this will not happen or even here in Europe this will not happen. If you believe this you might as well as pack shop now because you wont be around in five years time. Who will be successful in this new era will be the dealer who moves first and becomes more competitive in service with price and service offerings.

There will how ever be many winners in this hole new era and shake up and many losers as well who will win and who will lose only time will tell but one point is guaranteed the market is waking up to a new era and change is coming

Looks like they're up for sale:
asia.nikkei.com/Business/Deals/Forklift-maker-UniCarriers-putting-itself-up-for-sale

It looks like Unicarriers will be using the TCM as a brand name now and not unicarriers.

I would like to speak with you about becoming a Starke Material Handling dealer. This would resolve your issues bringing you a competent, well supported, complete lineup to your dealership.

Feel free to contact me.

Thank you.

Jim

Too many manufacturers in this business....more should be going out of business. TCM, Barrett and Nissan what is there total North America share 3%???

I totally agree with PHEQUIP and his response shows the more things change the more they stay the same.
Although I am now retired, we we're once a TCM, or as most people call it "TMC" dealer. There was a delaer who was 2 states away that thought it would be a good idea to put a branch in our state so TCM decided to cancel us. Well about 6 months later for what ever reason they decided to pull up stakes. TCM came back to us with their tail between their legs and asked us to back up the warranty on ant trucks they had sold and we caold again be the TCM dealer. Unfortunately we agreed.
It seems like most lift truck manufacturers have good products but they back them up with bad management. If they could only figure out that we are the customer, not the end user.

We have been a successful TCM dealer since 2005. Since the UniCarriers merger in 2012 our relationship with this manufacture has become convoluted to say the least. Their marketing plans are extremely complex and counter productive for the dealers. It seems every 3-4 months a new sales and marketing program is introduced. Just trying to keep up with "Who's on First" is a challenge. Unfortunately it has become apparent that UniCarriers is going out of its way to rid themselves of smaller TCM dealer, whether they are successful or not. Many have been canceled over the past 12-18 months. They are focused on ITA market share and use this measurement to claim breach of contract with their TCM dealers nationwide. We have developed many multi truck end user accounts for TCM over the past ten years that we will ultimately convert to another brand when our divorce with UniCarriers occurs. Unfortunately what many manufacturers fail to realize is that people buy from people. My customers do not care what brand we sell as long as it is reliable and can be supported with quality parts and service. For those current and former TCM dealers that may read this post, remember the prospective customer question "TC...Who" or "Who Makes TCM". Well I am convinced the new name "UniCarriers" will solve this problem. Don't you????

These were the same questions I asked in a meeting with the then newly formed Unicarriers peeps.. We going to be number 2 in 5 year was the statement they made. My inquiry then was "when was Unicarrier going to buy Toyota!" Unicarrier is doomed to fail... When one ignores history one will soon repeat it.