Discussion:
Which used forklifter to buy?

Hey,

we are now searching for a used forklifter, around 2,5-3t, diesel and not with really small tires. We are in a dillema to buy a used Linde or Hyster forklift, we are looking at 3-6year old ones and with 1000-4000 working hours... what is your opinion, who is better, and if something breaks who is easier and cheaper to repair. Thanks.

As for now we were really dissapointed with a STILL R70-30, we owned it for a couple of years now and had only trouble with it, we speend so much money on the repairs that we could almoust buy a new one. Every part is so expensive, just one example, the small hydraulic pump was 1.400 eur at the local STILL service. Not to mention that the service in our country is really bad, they really dont know the forklifter, if something is wrong,they just want to change all the parts or the best to change the whole engine... i couldnt imagine the price of that :) So my advice dont buy STILL, we never will again.

To tell something good also, we also own a steinbock or boss forklifter and they are really good. It runs with almoust no trouble for 15years at our sawmill.

With best regards,

Nejc
  • Posted 7 Jun 2009 01:15
  • Discussion started by nejc_k
  • SI, Slovenia
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Marko_N

Correct. I agree with you. It depends on the work and working conditions. It also depends on maintanance it is needed and is done on the forklift. It can be big differences in TCO then!

Regards.
  • Posted 1 Sep 2009 19:48
  • Reply by Billy_B
  • Slovenia, Slovenia
Billy B

Hyster is a good forklift, Cat too. Also Mitsubishi :) I think that there are a lot of good brands out there, but the problem is that not all machines are suitable for all customers...If you know what I mean.
Well, If somebody is buying a forklift and he doesent know much about them he must do homework for sure. Iron times when the only good brand was Indos&Litostroj are history.
And they were a good forklift trucks for sure.
Regards,
Marko
  • Posted 1 Sep 2009 19:36
  • Modified 1 Sep 2009 19:37 by poster
  • Reply by marko_n
  • Ljubljana, Slovenia
Edvard_T

I know he didn't mentioned Manitou or Cat. But I know Marko_N :)
If he is looking for forklifts with big tires Manitou is one of them :)
  • Posted 13 Aug 2009 15:48
  • Reply by Billy_B
  • Slovenia, Slovenia
Billy, the original poster (Nejc,) did not mention he had the chance to buy Cat, or Manitou. I wonder if he has made a choice yet?
  • Posted 13 Aug 2009 08:35
  • Modified 13 Aug 2009 08:36 by poster
  • Reply by edward_t
  • South Carolina, United States
"it's not rocket surgery"
Nejc,

You said you are looking for forklift with big tires. Why not look at MANITOU semi industrial trucks ? Leave me a message to get in touch with you!

Marko_N: You were Cat dealer and suddenly Hyster is the best forklift ?
  • Posted 13 Aug 2009 07:55
  • Reply by Billy_B
  • Slovenia, Slovenia
thats a really difficult question to answer. i like the toyota products ease of access and "clean" electronics. i guess an honest answer would be i would like to continue to work with the product but i would probably not be so forthcoming with praise. as far as getting thrown under the bus, i have NEVER allowed threat of unemployment to influence me. dont take this wrong but i am very good at what i do (sounds like you are too) and i work with all competitors tech's and equipment in houston. i wouldn't be unemployed long. by the way on a different subject, i am going to malabo in equitorial guinea on a service call next week. got shots and upgraded the passport. get plane tickets monday. cool huh.
  • Posted 10 Aug 2009 11:01
  • Reply by rick_c
  • Texas, United States
technology: (no user serviceable parts inside)
And you have my apologies too, if "shill" sounded a bit negative, it was not intended to be. I just come from a place where Yiddish is used in everyday speech, and "shill" is basically a salesperson.
It just seemed as tho the "Toyota fans" (and TCM fans) were so busy pushing what they had to sell that they missed the question.
And thanks for the honesty about where your opinions may be biased.
Let me ask you a question, if the local toyota dealer decided to "throw you under the bus" because of something not related to forklifts (say... your age, or you had a motor cycle accident and couldn't climb over the lift so you were let go, or your hair color, for that matter) would you still be as favorable to the brand?
  • Posted 10 Aug 2009 10:45
  • Modified 10 Aug 2009 10:49 by poster
  • Reply by edward_t
  • South Carolina, United States
"it's not rocket surgery"
wow, i guess i didnt notice the choices he presented. as for toyota, ive been repairing forklifts, teaching forklift repair, and doing tech service for forklifts for 29 years and 12 of those have been with toyota so i guess my views are a little biased. older hysters are great but the newer stuff (we work on a lot of them) is a bit silly. sorry if i pinched a nerve there.
  • Posted 10 Aug 2009 10:33
  • Reply by rick_c
  • Texas, United States
technology: (no user serviceable parts inside)
All you Toyota shills, didn't you bother to notice that Toyota was not one of the original poster's choices?
And that he was looking for a _cheap_ to repair 3 year old used unit?
Are you Toyota fans going to try and claim Toyota repair parts are on the low cost side?
In relation to Rick C's remarks about having to get a Yale/Hyster dealer involved; is it that Toyota is going to be really easy to find what the codes in current models are, as if it was published on some website and could be searched for via Google, or included in the operators manual?
In my humble opinion, given the choices, a pre 2004 Hyster would most likely be your best bet, as far as ease of maintenance/ availability of commonly replaced parts / expected longevity / cost for the better kept used unit.
  • Posted 9 Aug 2009 21:32
  • Reply by edward_t
  • South Carolina, United States
"it's not rocket surgery"
go with toyota. hyster and yale are too labor intensive and the newer ones "verasiter and fortis" require factory only programming access even for things a simple as activating the headlight circuit. any replacement of engine controls requires dealer involvement.
  • Posted 9 Aug 2009 12:32
  • Reply by rick_c
  • Texas, United States
technology: (no user serviceable parts inside)
hi nejc,

try Toyota material handling group..it is compose by Toyota Forklift(Japan) BT (sweden) and Raymond(us) all of material equipment you needed and after sales service is very good..

thanks and more power
  • Posted 14 Jul 2009 14:40
  • Reply by zarci
  • ncr, Philippines
Hi Nejc,

I have realy good experience with Hyster trucks, so I would recommend you Hyster. You can contact me if you wish an offer..
Regards,
Marko
  • Posted 1 Jul 2009 16:28
  • Reply by marko_n
  • Ljubljana, Slovenia
Take TCM. A client of mine is using only TCMs and has no problems at all.Bear in mind that he is buying only realy old and cheap machines. Take something with Nissan engine-easy to repair, cheap parts from every auto shop. The only throuble is with LPG engines, their proper work depends on the purity of the gas.
  • Posted 24 Jun 2009 16:16
  • Reply by mariy_v
  • LOVECH, Bulgaria
i would go with a used linde. yes parts are more expensive but I feel they are better built machines
  • Posted 17 Jun 2009 08:26
  • Reply by beast411
  • Minnesota, United States
Stick with a German build, either Linde or Jungheinrich who both offer hydrostatic drive machines. Still are a little more complicated and very costly when they go wrong (which they do). You will find that most repair bills are expensive from any manufacturer in my experience.
  • Posted 17 Jun 2009 06:08
  • Reply by Youngster
  • Bucks, United Kingdom

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