And you have my apologies too, if "shill" sounded a bit negative, it was not intended to be. I just come from a place where Yiddish is used in everyday speech, and "shill" is basically a salesperson.
It just seemed as tho the "Toyota fans" (and TCM fans) were so busy pushing what they had to sell that they missed the question.
And thanks for the honesty about where your opinions may be biased.
Let me ask you a question, if the local toyota dealer decided to "throw you under the bus" because of something not related to forklifts (say... your age, or you had a motor cycle accident and couldn't climb over the lift so you were let go, or your hair color, for that matter) would you still be as favorable to the brand?