Discussion:
Hyster vs. Yale

Difference being????? Why buy one or the other?
  • Posted 8 Sep 2006 13:12
  • By tom_j
  • joined 6 Oct'04 - 13 messages
  • Oregon, United States
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Yes....Gibs racing had a press conference last week and Tony was included. Tony said "all race cars look the same from the driver's seat". Toyota is adding 30 engineers for TRD. They are also building a gigantic facility somewhere around Charlotte.
  • Posted 13 Sep 2007 00:10
  • By charlie_j
  • joined 5 Nov'04 - 46 messages
  • California, United States
Take time to do the job right the first time, or you will have to make time to do the job over
not offically. but they will. i really thought that Jr. would go to Joe Gibbs racing.
  • Posted 12 Sep 2007 21:59
  • By steve_c
  • joined 20 Jul'06 - 43 messages
  • Illinois, United States
Is Tony officially driving a Toyota next year?
  • Posted 12 Sep 2007 12:14
  • By Toyotaman
  • joined 5 Apr'07 - 56 messages
  • Rhode Island, United States
the 7FGCU series are all made in Columbus Indiana. The home of Tony Stewart. Toyota has MANY supporting companies in surrounding areas or states. The Aisan transmission is also made in Indiana. Well actually Tony is from a small town very close to Columbus.
  • Posted 12 Sep 2007 11:23
  • By charlie_j
  • joined 5 Nov'04 - 46 messages
  • California, United States
You are correct Steve! "U" stands for USA (Indiana, Iowa, NY or Canada) but close enough.
  • Posted 12 Sep 2007 08:25
  • Modified 12 Sep 2007 08:39 by poster
  • By Toyotaman
  • joined 5 Apr'07 - 56 messages
  • Rhode Island, United States
the j means that the truck was made in Japan. and the "u" means the truck was built in Indiana. just guessing.
  • Posted 11 Sep 2007 22:52
  • By steve_c
  • joined 20 Jul'06 - 43 messages
  • Illinois, United States
I'll throw in my thoughts. Having worked for Yale for many years the biggest differece I see between NACCO and Toyota is simplicity (I now work for Toyota). Toyota has had one engine and basically one transmission for 21 years. NACCO has the two Mazda engines (Very good engines) and the 3.0L GM engine (Not nearly as good as Mazda, but more power). They have three engines and four transmissions. By my count this is a possible 12 combinations (I know only certain packages are offered). Toyota has one transmission with one engine.

The old GLC050RGNUAE083s were great trucks but the Veracitor may have been too big a step without the proper engineering resources.

By the way, does anyone remember what the "J" in the older Yale model number stood for? GLC030CBJUAT083?

Does anyone know what the "U" stands for in a Toyota model 7FGCU15.
  • Posted 11 Sep 2007 12:03
  • Modified 11 Sep 2007 12:04 by poster
  • By Toyotaman
  • joined 5 Apr'07 - 56 messages
  • Rhode Island, United States
Well skyscrape we do agree on one issue....the cost of Toyota parts.

On the quality issue, we are just going to have to agree to disagree. I worked on them all for well over twenty years and saw Toyota go through growing pains of being a new product in the American market. Starting with the 5 series Toyota made a great leap on quality. Dealers were even complaing of not having enough parts revenue on the new series. Although they took a step back with the 6 series (which was a short lived series) the 7 series they again focused on quality. Nacco is not a bad product...Toyota is simply a better quality product.
  • Posted 9 Sep 2007 10:05
  • By charlie_j
  • joined 5 Nov'04 - 46 messages
  • California, United States
Take time to do the job right the first time, or you will have to make time to do the job over
RE: Charlie J's claim "Toyota is the most trouble free truck on the market today. "

No offence Mr. C. but - WHAT a load son!

All forklifts break down, I've 20 yrs. working on them all; the ammount of breakdowns toy vs nacco are close. The difference being the price of the parts; Toyota's being up to 3x more on certain parts - esp. big ticket items. That's why a previous post said - tranny build nacco $5k; toyota $12k - is true. Price a ring & pinion $600 nacco ; $1800 toyota. Toy's are great till they break - then you will pay 3x as much for the parts.
  • Posted 9 Sep 2007 07:17
  • Modified 9 Sep 2007 07:35 by poster
  • By skyscrape
  • joined 9 Sep'07 - 2 messages
  • Georgia, United States
why not just put a GM in every lift truck? with a holley 4 bbl with posi traction and a 411 rear end.
  • Posted 11 Aug 2007 05:33
  • By steve_c
  • joined 20 Jul'06 - 43 messages
  • Illinois, United States
I don't know how a discussion that started out as "Hyster vs. Yale morphed into a discussion about Toyota..... I think that the reason that Toyota is #1 is that they are the the best at marketing, plain and simple. It doesn't prove a thing about the quality of their products. Isn't Walmart #1?-- and no one would argue that they absolutely offer the best quality products.
There is a local lumber company that has one 6,000# Toyota diesel pneumatic as well as several of another brand truck with the same specs. Whenever they hire a new driver, they drive the Toyota down their STEEP driveway and they have to use the other brand trucks to push it back up the hill because it can't make it on it's own. By the way, the other brand trucks have an average of 12,000+ hours of use and the Toyata has about 3,000# hours and has not been able to negotiate the hill from day 1. And no, the problem isn't timing or adjustments-the truck is just plain underpowered.
  • Posted 31 Jul 2007 22:58
  • By duodeluxe
  • joined 11 Feb'05 - 923 messages
  • United States
duodeluxe
Remember the next position for a #1 is a number greater than 1.
  • Posted 31 Jul 2007 22:19
  • By johnr_j
  • joined 3 Jun'06 - 1,452 messages
  • Georgia, United States
It's tough being #1.
  • Posted 31 Jul 2007 10:16
  • By Toyotaman
  • joined 5 Apr'07 - 56 messages
  • Rhode Island, United States
You are right etharp.

I have also never heard of a dealer refusing service because the customer is disputing a bill. However, I have heard of a dealer who required a technician to pick up a check after servicing the truck. What other business do you know where the customer will wait 120 days to pay a bill and it is an accepted practice? The lift truck industry is unlike any other.
  • Posted 30 Jul 2007 07:18
  • By charlie_j
  • joined 5 Nov'04 - 46 messages
  • California, United States
Take time to do the job right the first time, or you will have to make time to do the job over
Donni......I see you work for Jerry Hatmaker, good friend of mine. He was one of my dealers for many years. In your area there are many older trucks, maybe even going back to the 3 series. If you need any information on the older equipment, let me know.
  • Posted 20 Apr 2007 12:32
  • By charlie_j
  • joined 5 Nov'04 - 46 messages
  • California, United States
Take time to do the job right the first time, or you will have to make time to do the job over
Donnie,
You are in good hands with Toyota. There are many other very good manufacturers, some better than Toyota on certain products. But in general Toyota seems to do things just a little bit better in all aspects of the businesses they are involved with.
  • Posted 20 Apr 2007 10:32
  • By Toyotaman
  • joined 5 Apr'07 - 56 messages
  • Rhode Island, United States
I see from reading that you are a veteran of the industry and you are now with TOYOTA. I am new to the Industry and with TOYOTA. I would welcome any advice you would be willing to share with me. You may also email me [email address removed]
  • Posted 20 Apr 2007 01:34
  • By donnie_l
  • joined 20 Apr'07 - 2 messages
  • Tennessee, United States
You have to go with the best dealer because there is no difference in the product. It's that simple.
  • Posted 9 Apr 2007 10:29
  • By Toyotaman
  • joined 5 Apr'07 - 56 messages
  • Rhode Island, United States
Well this thread has gotten a little of the initial question asked. That the accelerator voltage is too high giving a code. If the accelerator sensor is properly checked and found to be in good shape and properly adjusted then the problem is probably the voltage regulator circuit in the card is defective and the only solution is to replace the card.

I HIGHLY AGREE with the first post....find another service dealer.

Now about the Toyotas. I worked for the Toyota factory or was associated with Toyota for 25 years. The 4Y engine was introduced in the 5 series in October 1986. It has been an unbelievably reliable engine. The SAS system is also extremely reliable, however it is not trouble free. It is expensive to replace components when they fail. That being said....Toyota is the most trouble free truck on the market today. With the changes on the 8 series, I expect the reliability to increase.
  • Posted 8 Apr 2007 00:28
  • By charlie_j
  • joined 5 Nov'04 - 46 messages
  • California, United States
Take time to do the job right the first time, or you will have to make time to do the job over
SAS average cost per truck per year is "less than $21.50 per year" Over 120,000 built with SAS. I've never heard on any customer having an issue.

Not a bad insurance policy for forklift operators that don't always have respect for the equipment.
  • Posted 7 Apr 2007 02:58
  • By Toyotaman
  • joined 5 Apr'07 - 56 messages
  • Rhode Island, United States

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