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Yale lift truck GLP050 High idle

I just did a timing chain/water pump in our Yale LP lift truck, and now I need to have the idle adjusted way up or it will die while lifting or while warming up. Don't think there are any vacuum leaks. I tried turning the distributor to dozens of different places yet I still get the same results...need to have a high idle or it dies while lifting or turning really sharp. I did mess with the mixture screw, but I don't think that would affect things too much. I just got the service manual for this so I will bring a timing light in tomorrow and see if I can set the timing to factory spec, but I really don't think it's the timing as I have been timing vehicles by ear for decades. I'm even thinking maybe the governor?? This truck is so far out of adjustment it's not funny. I just don't understand what could have happened...I didn't do anything else to it other than adjust the valve stem clearance, put on a new timing chain, and install a new water pump. I can't figure out for the life of me why the idle needs to be up so high just to keep it from dying! Any pointers on what I might check is very much appreciated. Thanks.
  • Posted 21 Jun 2017 10:57
  • By SolarNinja
  • joined 9 Apr'15 - 22 messages
  • Washington, United States
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ahhh the ole setting the timing by ear method...
yes i used to do this in the old days when i was trying to power balance a truck :oD

of course now a days with the onboard ECM's this generally doesn't work so well and can cause more problems than helping.

If you want the timing set to the correct range you will have to do it the factory way.
According to the RG manual the timing for the FE and F2 engines are to be set to 0°deg at 725 rpm's on white mark on gasoline engines, and 9° deg for LPG engines, at 725 rpm's using the red mark.

when installing the belt the crank should have the deflector washer knotch pointing straight up at 12 oclock aligned with the mark on the engine, the crank key should also be inline with this knotch, and the cam gear mark should be set with the letter A on the gear pointing at 12 oclock aligned with the mark/knotch on the engine.
The part that usually causes problems is when you set the tensioner, that may move either the crank or cam causing the marks to go out of alignment. This is why you always rotate the engine after setting the belt and tensioner to insure the marks are still where they should be.

IMPCO fuel system idle speed: 725 rpm
AISAN fuel system idle speed: 800 rpm

Also as was suggested you may want to recheck your timing mark locations and make sure they are on the mark, alot of times when you install a belt on a multicog setup like whats in these engines it is not hard to be a tooth off, it happens to me quite more than not so it is a good practice to rotate the engine a couple of rotations after installing the belt to let the belt settle in place and allow you to see if the marks are indeed on the mark.
Being one tooth off can make all the difference in the world and can cause a severe loss of power and erratic running performance.
  • Posted 21 Jun 2017 23:16
  • By swoop223
  • joined 23 Mar'12 - 3,691 messages
  • North Carolina, United States
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Recheck the cam timing. You might have the belt off a tooth.
  • Posted 21 Jun 2017 22:26
  • By BREWSKI
  • joined 10 Jan'12 - 1,699 messages
  • Nebraska, United States
What was the reson for the belt change,did it break??? If it did is it possible a valve is bent and hanging open just a bit?.....is this the same truck with serial number that starts with A875 that you posted about clutch inching issue???
  • Posted 21 Jun 2017 12:24
  • By kevin_t
  • joined 2 Dec'10 - 1,301 messages
  • Pennsylvania, United States

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