How is the C-5 working out. It has been out for a while and I have not heard anything good or bad. They make good eletric units and I was just curious.
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Lagrange I didn't find them that bad to work on yes some jobs did take a bit of patience lol. As for sending mediocre engineers to work on them? I wouldn't send a mediocre engineer to work on any modern truck or if the truth be known any truck really
Thank you LaGrange This is just the info i was looking for. I have just received units with the new psi motor. Jury is out on it for now but it has a very impressive power band. These things will haul. Have to keep the enginr mode at a low setting and it will still pull a steep trailer ramp with no problem. With full load.
This machine is a big headache to work on.
Easy repairs are: replacing battery, alternator, forks, mast hoses.
Difficult repairs: Diagnosing and replacing Power Brake system accumulator, diagnosing and repairing On Demand cooling system, replacing Steer Control Unit located at bottom of steering column (have fun with those "proprietary" 2 piece o-rings that you CAN NOT buy from a local auto parts store- unless the design has changed in the past 2 years).
Requires additional patience. DO NOT dispatch mediocre tech's to work on this machine.
I'll state facts as well in not comparing the C5 to the trucks you have over there I'm comparing it with the crap we get over here. I've worked for mitsi dealers and for Crown.
PSG5........I'm very aware of this. As I've been with a Cat/ Mitsu & Crown dealer for 27 yrs. What I was pointing out, is that there's a difference in the product being put out in the US & Europe.
Budman only certain models of the Jungheinrich are produced in Houston and there are no Jungheinrich IC products. Rocla is some what sold here but only South of the border.
I'll state facts again. In the USA Caterpillar is built in conjunction with Jungheinrich. In Europe, they us Rocla product......Very big quality difference. Also in USA, Tier 4 Diesel is Perkins. Not Nissan.
Look at the quality difference between mitsi/cat and crown even bigger difference especially on the electric machines.
they seem to be doing just fine.
look at the difference in price between the Cat/Mitsu and Crown.....HUGE difference
Crown build a nice reliable truck, but the C5 is a home market attempt to break out of being 'just electrics'. In Europe its too big, too noisy, too old fashioned to take off. Totally outclassed by JH/Linde/Toyota IC products.
Point taken budman im comparing the C5 to the Nissan Mitsi/Cat trucks we get over here and I stand by what i said its a better machine. I've worked on all 3 the build quality and reliabilty of the Crown is far better
Lifter01: There's a difference between the lifts supplied by MCFA & MCFE. Here on this side of the large pond. We only use the Nissan K-21 & K-25 powertrain in the smaller lifts. As for diesels we're still using the Mitsu S4S and S6S. On larger LP lifts, we use the GM 4.3L V-6 with dual coolers. Now we have the tier 4 Perkins in the larger lifts. Also on the electric lifts from MCFE you have the Rocla build products and here we have the Junheinrich Cats. Big difference.
Oldforker I'm very serious. Dont know about on your side of the world but over here Misi/Cat Nissan don't have a good rep at all very tier 2 machines poor buld quality unreliable power-train especially in the FG40N the Nissan 6 cyl lump cracking cyl heads transmission failures lousy electronic park brakes which failed (and that was on every FG40N we supplied). The build quality of the C% was far supirior to both. Yes we had teething faults but nothing like I had when the new mitsi trucks came out. The biggest problem with the C5 was parts cost and still is until Crown sort that out you wont see too many around.
swing by anytime... the trick is to make the square fit INTO the fork... lol.
hey edward, i have a wheelbarrow i can't seem to get this square wheel to fit on, can you help? ;o)
I would not consider a lack of complaints on an open forum like this as any sign of lack of problems, more likely the fact that some brands that have stricter control over the [supposed] free speech rights of their employees, have done a better job of managing to prevent posting replies to those concerns.
IMHO, some brands seem to have less participation of their employees, especially their US based employees. I notice a shortage of US based Crown and/or Toyota techs answering questions about their respective brands, and I somehow doubt that those brands have somehow managed to provide the answers to the concerns, somewhere that everyone else has found and not ever mentioned. {thankfully there are some techs in places like 'down under' that step up and assist, thanks Crownie}
We rarely notice when something is not, but do notice when something is. I have never considered that there is -no- shark in the water fountain, but if there ever was, I am sure I would notice.
There sure are days when I sure wish I could work only on wheelbarrows.
I have 30+ years in the industry the first half on just electrics and the rest on just about everything else. I will work on a wheelbarrow if needed. And...I am pretty good on them too.
Re lifter01's comments - better than a Mitsi or a Nissan???? Are you serious!?
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