The Materials Handling market is about to change. With only around six or seven of the world's manufactures serving. With in the next 10 years most warehouse will be completely different Companies like KION of China DAMATIC or TOYOTA of Japan VANDERLANDE will dominate the warehouse business with hole turnkey products. Pallet trucks, reach trucks VNA truck will all be replaced with automated equipment.
Counter balance forklift sales will also decline and be replaced with complete handling systems that will be able to move products around a facility with out the need of an operator. Out side the facility there will also be big changes Both Diesel and electric forklifts will be replaced with 100% zero emission products that will have much longer ranges then electric forklifts and will be able to handle loads up to 72,000kg while being 100% zero emission. Companies Like Hyster who have backed Hydrogen to the tune of up to $260 million investment will see this disappear as hydrogen forklifts wont be able to compete with the new technologies that will offer lower cost's ,no need for high pressure systems ,be less explosive and more cost effective than hydrogen.
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Just for the record - your " lego type ghost" truck seemed to be of a much larger lift capacity and of a modular design for "quick" service to keep it up and running. What say you now.? Dave???
Didn't know that a FAC Screen name was to be associated with ones physical location and work place company. Guess I screwed up in 1996 when I moved from MCFA in Houston Texas on a Friday to Komatsu Forklift Inc. in Covington, GA following Monday with different job responsibilitiies and kept the same screen name. That was about a 1000 mile distance via our interstate road system via a gas eating 8 cylinder Oldsmobile.- about a 14 hours drive w/o stopping except for stopping pick up to go food, fuel and peeing.
I've actually told you who I was and who I worked for. So try again on that one.
Nobody is scared, you claimed a big reveal for the 4th quarter of 2020 so many times, didn't happen. You claimed you were going to have 500 trucks in the US by the end of 2023, yet you cannot prove you have even built one.
Just for the record on some of your other claims. Hyster is still in business and Hydrogen is growing.
Like I said...edited by Admin....say who you all are you hide behind your so called names on hear but you don't know anything about this industry.
If you did you would make a contribution
Edited by Admin.... time to give it up you are making yourself look silly.
So you can do a LinkedIn search, like I say you know nothing about me
YOUR WORDS, not mine.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/david-o-callaghan-061b8b36_breakthroughenergy-microsoft-google-activity-7189544639186501632--7Am/
Here's the context for those who don't have Linked In:
I wouldn't typically share personal stories like this, but I believe it's crucial to shed light on our journey. It all began in 2018 when I sat down with Ron Hodkinson and Masood Ariff to delve into the world of hydrogen fuel cells. Ron eloquently outlined the challenges associated with hydrogen, prompting us to explore an alternative path: ammonia IC engines. Thus, Letaq Exalt was born, later evolving into Letaq and LetaqNH3 Power Systems as more directors joined the venture. By 2021, Letaq had unveiled its first proof of concept engine, followed swiftly by a second in 2023. However, a shift in dynamics within Letaq became palpable, particularly after a revealing WhatsApp message. Edited by Admin........
I just want to point out that Ron had major impact on getting the ammonia engine running
By February 2024, the landscape had altered significantly. Four out of five directors from LetaqNH3 Power Systems branched out to establish Ammotto Ltd, aiming to transfer LetaqNH3 technology to this new entity, potentially isolating a shareholder. It was during this tumultuous period that I made the decision to pivot towards Letaq Energy, forging new partnerships with strategic companies to propel ammonia IC engine development forward. However, complications arose due to conflicts over the name Letaq, compounded by obstacles set by Ammotto Ltd.
In response to these challenges, the management team at Letaq Energy has made the bold decision to rebrand the company as Ammteq. Under this new identity, Ammteq remains steadfast in its mission to advance the development of liquefied ammonia IC engines, which run solely on ammonia and boast 100% zero emissions. The Ammteq team is not only committed to pushing technological boundaries but also to pushing them to the very edge in our collective pursuit of a cleaner future for generations to come.
In the face of adversity, Ammteq stands poised to lead the charge towards a more sustainable tomorrow, where innovation and collaboration drive us towards unparalleled heights of environmental stewardship and technological excellence.
I would, however, like to finish this post by saying thank you to Ron for all he has taught me over the years about ammonia and IC engines, as well as for our shared travels around the Middle East.
You know nothing about me or my company.
You make these comments none to do with the post just attacks on me.
You know that much you know who we have agreed to partner on the truck development.
Like I said there will be a ammonia hybrid system fitted into a 3,000kg forklift for testing
Why because you are scared , you're scared that my knowledge is much better than yours. You're scared because you can't see how the industry is going to develop.
ChrisK every company that Dave has been a director at has gone into liquidation mate I've checked on companies house in the UK. Edited by Admin...........
Dave a few corrections...edited by Admin... 1 kion are not Chinese owned the majority of the company is still German. 2 there are no working ammonia solutions out there for FLT or any other pieces of plant cars etc, yes there are solutions being looked at but those are still 10+ years away 3 yes the new lines use the same chassis but that's down to cost more than anything else and lastly...edited by Admin....4 where is your wonder machine?? you've given us so many release dates now some of us are beginning to to think that maybe it doesn't exist (I'm just joking here we know it doesn't) you claim to be a Yorkshire man Dave I actually am and one thing a Yorkshire man is (apart from being pig headed) is honest, your giving us a bad name...edited by Admin...
Where is your supermachine?
He doesn't have a machine and never did (which we all knew) His investors have all drummed him and another guy out of the company, so he is starting over with a new name....again.
Where is your supermachine?
@mr.Lifter Me thinks he should have been a fairy tale reader and read stuff like Snow White &The Seven Dwarfs, Peter Pan Three Bears, Goldilocks, etc to those preschool types.
You have missed your calling in life, you should have been a politician, your better that two tier Keir at simply avoiding the question and deflecting with something else!
You have been on this platform since around 2012 saying you are building some kind truck, you started of with diesel powered hydrostatic. then I think diesel electric, now ammonia, it seems that technology just keeps passing you by before you even get a truck built, I would do your self a favour and keep quiet rather than keep making a fool of yourself!
Today, many large forklift OEMs have adopted the concept of interchangeable batteries for electric forklifts. For example, in the latest Linde trucks, over 85% of the components will be the same between the H30 and the X30 models, with only the drive lines differing. In terms of ammonia-powered engines, within the next three years, counterbalance forklifts powered by ammonia hybrid systems will likely emerge in Asia. Similar to hydrogen forklifts, these will probably fit into today's electric truck designs. At a 3,000kg capacity, they will be powered by a 20kW ammonia engine paired with a 10kWh battery pack.
The folks want to know where is your "dream machine" in the iron and operating at a real users sit that will take the world to the promise land of the material handling - not once again a bunch of dribble and projections about who is going to do what to who and when and where that one might find in ones locals fortune tellers crystal ball for a small fee.
OK ,once again where is your super machine? When i first got into this industry forklifts had wooden masts , steam engines ,stone rollers. They steered from the back ,forks on the front. Except for the power systems and the materials they are made of from they still steer from the back , forks on the front. So where is your super machine ?
You argue that hydrogen will make inroads, but there are only two significant hydrogen solutions: Fuel Cells and Internal Combustion (IC) engines. If we examine fuel cells, the only company that has made any progress in the materials handling sector is Plug Power, and last year, they reported a staggering loss of $750 million. The reason for this failure is that hydrogen as a fuel is not yet economically viable. It is expensive to produce, store, and transport. Furthermore, hydrogen IC engines, while an alternative, are less efficient than fuel cells and face additional challenges like the need for hydrogen to be stored at 700 Bar. This requires specialized high-pressure tanks, which are even more complex and expensive than those required for fuel cells, not to mention the need for different refueling systems with built-in refrigeration.
When we focus on materials handling equipment, especially for loads under 5,000kg, battery electric technology is likely to dominate. China's influence in this market will grow, as the quality of electric equipment improves and the availability of parts increases. For larger-scale equipment-over 6,000kg-ammonia-powered IC engine hybrid technology will likely take the lead. Similar to the under-5,000kg sector, China is expected to be the main supplier of these solutions, taking advantage of their manufacturing capability and growing expertise in clean technology.
The ongoing improvements in battery technology, infrastructure, and manufacturing efficiency for electric and ammonia-powered systems point to the future dominance of these technologies. Hydrogen, for all its promise, remains an expensive and technically challenging fuel, limiting its role in certain markets like materials handling. The key drivers of progress in the near term will likely focus on more practical and cost-effective solutions.
you will get companies Like Sany who will dominate port equipment , KION who are chines owned will still be a dominate company in the forklift and warehouse business. These are just two Chines companies that will dominate in the industry
The issue we all have with you dace is you come here making big claims about you wonder machine telling us all when it will be released etc and yet you never ever live up to those claims and promises fella.
Yes the material handling industry will change and is but I will disagree with some of what you say 1 China will be the dominant supplier?? Not for a lot of years they won't as somebody who works in Chinese brands onky 1visvto be honest any good the rest are very badly built and parts support us a joke (and that includes BYD), 2 new ways of powering engine will be used? Yes hydrogen but ammonia?? Not for many years fella they won't we have nonengines anywhere ready to be put in trucks to be trialed. Over the next few years lithium ion will continue to grow in the market and probably in the next 5 or so years hydrogen will start yo make inroads. Linde, Hyster and Toyota are sinking billions into hydrogen research but nobody in the mhe industry is putting anything into Amonia doesn't that tell you anything?? It does me.
Come on davey boy where is your truck???
In the US all those longshoremen on the east coast from Maine to Houston in the Gulf are striking. Besides a big pay increase they want LESS automation for container handling so they can have more union brothers working on the docks.
Once upon a time YOU claimed you and your investors were going beach multiple rental units of those save the earth ammonia eaters on the east coast of the US. Never heard one word how that event went - care to share with the FAC public the highlights - not looking for the hidden secretes of your success - jsut the highlighys.
Gotta feeling this bloke has been to more than 1 CJ and came out with first prize blue ribbon each time. Wouldn't mind if I could take him out for a SNIPE hunt too. Hear the banks of the Chattahoochee has a lot of them - fun canoe ride..
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