Combilift C4000:
Steering alignment

The truck had a problem where the 2 smaller wheels didnt always align by a long way.

I have replaced the "master" steering ram and after a lot of purging the wheels are aligned (almost)

will they eventually line themselves up or is here an ajustment to be made.

The wheel thats having the fault is the wheel with the ajustable steering ram (master ram)
  • Posted 25 Jul 2024 00:21
  • Discussion started by andrew_k
  • England, United Kingdom
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Hi Andrew,

The form is for anyone to submit, feel free to enter what data you can. The form is great as it gives tech support information they will be asking you. It also allows them to better understand the issue before they call you back.

Alternatively you can contact combilift reception and ask for Uk Technical support, but the form is better, as it allows the team to provide better support.

Hope you get sorted.
  • Posted 30 Jul 2024 02:02
  • Reply by Richard_Irwin
  • Monaghan, Ireland
Richard, Do you have contact number/email The form seems related to combilift dealers only

Andrew Kershaw
  • Posted 29 Jul 2024 23:44
  • Modified 1 Aug 2024 07:53 by poster
  • Reply by andrew_k
  • England, United Kingdom
Thanks for all the replies everybody, I have tried purging the system, sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt.

I am back at the truck now.

If I get the wheels to line up within 5 mminutes use they are out of line again.

I have checked the left hand cylinder for bypassing and there is none.

I will fill in the Combilift help form now
  • Posted 29 Jul 2024 23:39
  • Reply by andrew_k
  • England, United Kingdom
Hi Andrew
You have got great responses here already, but if you still need support, you can complete a quick technical support form at the bottom of the main combilift.com web site or direct link https://warranty.combilift.net/technical-support-form/. The form only asks for the minimal info so the team can quickly help you. There is no login required and no charge for this support.
Combilift has Technical support technicians across the world including the UK specific technical team and they will get your submitted form automatically.
You can also request access to our knowledgebase where you will find more information available. Hope you get sorted.
  • Posted 29 Jul 2024 18:31
  • Reply by Richard_Irwin
  • Monaghan, Ireland
You may still have an issue with the LF steer cylinder.

It may look like the RF is causing the issue because the steering prox sensors that the truck is using for steering alignment during mode change are located only on the LF steer wheel assembly. Due to this reason the truck doesnt know where the RF is and will base alignment off of just the left.

If you had an owners manual with the hydraulic schematic you would notice that the hydraulic line from the front of the RF steer cylinder is connected to the back of the LF steer cylinder.

When the steer cylinders are in proper working order hydraulic fluid is locked between the front of the RF steer cylinder and the back of fhe LF cylinder. This is called syncronization oil and keeps both steer cylinders aligned with one another.

If either LF or RF steer cylinders are bypassing internally this would allow the amount of locked oil or synchronization oil to change causing a front wheel alignment issue.

Before replacing next time you can do a quick test that will usually determine which cylinder is causing your issue.

1. Reset and Purge Procedure

Run the truck, select side mode and start the reset by fully extending the steer cylinders.

Once fully extended continue steering against the relief pressure (steering lock) for at least one full turn of the steering wheel.

Then fully retract the steer cylinders, once again steering at least one full turn against the pressure relief or lock.

Test Procedure

Select forward mode, let the truck finish its mode change and then select side mode left or right, once again allowing the truck to complete its mode change before shutting off the engine.

With the front steer wheels in side mode (crab mode) remove the front hydraulic line (rod side) from the RF (master) steer cylinder, cap the cylinder port and plug the line.

Mark both the LF and RF chrome rods with somthing that wont cause damage.

Start the engine, select side mode and turn the steering wheel at least two full turns clockwise and then at least two full turns counter-clockwise.

Shut off the engine and check your marks on both steer cylinders. If either steer cylinder has extended this would indicate an internal bypass.

(As a tip I recommend using a tape measure and marking the chrome approx 1 inch away from the cylinder gland nut, this will make it easier to check how much the cylinder has extended if measured after the test and compared.)

Also as a note even a good steer cylinder will move slightly due to air being introduced into the system when capping and plugging the line but will be minimal.

If the bypass isnt noticable with 2 full turns clockwise and counter-clockwise you may have to do more.
  • Posted 26 Jul 2024 09:31
  • Reply by BLey
  • Ontario, Canada
My front wheels are crabbing after changing the master ram on the front wheels

The customer has called this afternoon to say they are crabbing badly again??
  • Posted 26 Jul 2024 01:40
  • Reply by andrew_k
  • England, United Kingdom
hi i take it that you mean that you have changed the main steer ram for the rear wheel if that is correct.
and your front wheels are crabbing inwards then you need to change both front cylinders as one is slave and other is master one or both cylinders are bypassing hence the crabbing inwards in a straightline it will fix that problem.
  • Posted 25 Jul 2024 21:12
  • Reply by skyreach
  • Victoria, Australia
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