The starter spins fine at the work bench. The motor rotates freely by the flywheel. The negative Ground from the battery goes to a common ground at the chassis at the base of the battery and to 2 other grounding spots-1 at the side of the radiator and the other at the thermostat housing temp. sensor. There is also a ground wire going from the common ground at the chassis to the bell housing of the transmission. I will try the jumper wire next to see if that makes a difference but I'm not too confident that it will. All the grounds have been removed and cleaned. These questions are not dumb if they help me find the problem are they so any question you throw at me , I will test them out. THANK-YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP SO FAR. I think we will solve this sooner or later. Once again THANK'S EDWARD T