Hi guys, Very deep subject here as Ken has pointed out. First off remember that he issue of a certificate is recognised that the candidate has received "adequate basic training" If a candidate fails the ABF test then extra training is required - meaning that the training was not adequate for that particular trainees needs, for whatever reason. We are supposed to give a report on all our trainees, good or bad - where we make recommendations for further training as required. I personally like to test all candidates and use the failed test to highlight weaknesses which the candidate can see for him/her self, plus then they know exactly whats coming and the standard required. I will never test an unknown candidate and issue a certificate - how can I sign a statement that this person has received adequate basic training when i have no idea what training they have received