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the End of Materials Handling as it is known today

The Materials Handling market is about to change. With only around six or seven of the world's manufactures serving. With in the next 10 years most warehouse will be completely different Companies like KION of China DAMATIC or TOYOTA of Japan VANDERLANDE will dominate the warehouse business with hole turnkey products. Pallet trucks, reach trucks VNA truck will all be replaced with automated equipment.

Counter balance forklift sales will also decline and be replaced with complete handling systems that will be able to move products around a facility with out the need of an operator. Out side the facility there will also be big changes Both Diesel and electric forklifts will be replaced with 100% zero emission products that will have much longer ranges then electric forklifts and will be able to handle loads up to 72,000kg while being 100% zero emission. Companies Like Hyster who have backed Hydrogen to the tune of up to $260 million investment will see this disappear as hydrogen forklifts wont be able to compete with the new technologies that will offer lower cost's ,no need for high pressure systems ,be less explosive and more cost effective than hydrogen.
  • Posted 22 Feb 2020 07:11
  • By Exalteze
  • joined 7 Feb'20 - 89 messages
  • Halifax, United Kingdom
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why am i feeling like we are caught in an endless time loop here?
it keeps repeating itself over and over and over and over...


Are you having a problem getting someone to back this effort so you can actually build this thing?
I mean seriously, since your location keeps moving over the years from dubai, then saudi, and now UK, it kind of looks that way since you keep moving around...
have to have mfg's to build these components that most likely will take specificly built assembly lines etc. If this thing was as good as you say then these money men should be jumping at the chance to do this and this truck would have been out long ago. There is something holding this up and that is the only logical thing i can think of as to why it has not come out yet. Not to mention your sales banter, you keep saying the same things and nobody has taken the bait yet, if they had we would of heard about it by now.
Nobody is talking about it across the material handling industry that i can see (i've been in this industry over 40yrs), so all we have is YOU trying to sell it and not showing any real evidence it is even a viable candidate for any sort of marketing in any sense other than a bunch of sales propaganda.

maybe that's why you keep stalling?
Just calling it like i see it ;)
  • Posted 25 Sep 2020 07:31
  • By swoop223
  • joined 23 Mar'12 - 3,692 messages
  • North Carolina, United States
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1. Fact: End users will ultimately be the judge of your and any other design concept along with product support, reputation. efficiency/productivity claims, etc. Until a product is brought to market it is just a story book full of pictures & nice words/claims
2. Fact: Engineering at its very best is still full of compromises.
3. Fact: Most users I've ever encountered believe in the US state of Missouri's motto '"Show Me" or as another poster stated "Put Up or Shut Up".
  • Posted 25 Sep 2020 07:16
  • By johnr_j
  • joined 3 Jun'06 - 1,446 messages
  • Georgia, United States
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The technical info is correct these are the sizes and performance of our trucks. as for credible sources to back up all our Data. Then yes this will all be done and annouced in good time.


Now i'm not asking you to believe me you are welcome to your own opion. But i'm also welcome to mine and as i know a lot more about our company, products and technical capabilaties as against what is in the market today and the future i very conferdent that our product and technology will be not only game changing but also the best technology and products in the market for forklifts over 10,000kg and mobile container handling.
  • Posted 25 Sep 2020 04:35
  • By Exalteze
  • joined 7 Feb'20 - 89 messages
  • Halifax, United Kingdom
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Where is the proof?
You have been spouting off about this truck for at least 5 or more years but no proof.
Anyone can build a website and put concept drawings on it as well as putting technical information as to what they hope to achieve but until you actually produce trucks and have credible sources to back your data no one is going to believe you.
  • Posted 25 Sep 2020 04:19
  • By Partsguy5
  • joined 13 Jun'12 - 409 messages
  • California, United States
Well we still have the best technology in the market and are still many years infront of every one else

who else can produce a 16,000kg forklift with a 15 hour range a 10 min refueling time while being 100% zeo emission at a cost effective price range
  • Posted 25 Sep 2020 04:07
  • Modified 25 Sep 2020 04:08 by poster
  • By Exalteze
  • joined 7 Feb'20 - 89 messages
  • Halifax, United Kingdom
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Your truck will be the biggest dud since Y2K
  • Posted 25 Sep 2020 04:03
  • By ChrisK
  • joined 28 Feb'14 - 142 messages
  • Kansas, United States
well the announcement will be the revealing of the truck. yes it will change the hole market for big trucks over 10,000kg and mobile container handling, yes it will have a big impact on the smaller truck market from 2,000kg - 8,000kg, yes it is 100% zero emission with a range and perfomance compairable to diesel with the lowest Total Cost Of Ownership in the market when compared to other OEM's with simular quality product. comanies Like Kalmar, kone Cranes, Hyster,Carer and some of the top Chinese manufactures like Heli, Sany and Hangcha.

I will say that back in February we did not no about Covid and yes this has had an effect on the market and how we have been able to work. But this not me saying well because of Covid we won't be revealing the truck in this quater. we are only at the beginning of this quater and like i have said the truck will be revealed before the end.

we are in a better position than most OEM's in this industry who have suffered possibly up to a 40% - 60% drop in their production while their fixed overheads have stayed the same, Yes we have better technology and are in a much stronger position than eny of the other OEM's in this range. Unlike Hyster who have put $100's of millions into the development of hydrogen in the hope to get a major foot hold in North Americain ports and terminals with their hydrogen trucks.

we have developed a much better system that will out perfome a hydrogen fuel cell truck, a battery electric truck and a Diesel truck and be more cost effective. So yes i'm very conferdent on our product and technology.
  • Posted 25 Sep 2020 03:05
  • Modified 25 Sep 2020 03:16 by poster
  • By Exalteze
  • joined 7 Feb'20 - 89 messages
  • Halifax, United Kingdom
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@exalteze
On February 24, 2020 here are your exact words

"Well The new truck that will change the global counter balance forklift market will be out in the fourth Quarter this year."

BTW you repeated this claim twice on the same date in another post.
Now your most recent post uses verbiage that strongly suggests you are already starting to crawfish on this proclamation. As I see it, the words "will be out" and an "announcement" (from your most current statement) have two different and distinct meanings. One produces a less than positive reflection on ones integrity and credibility.
  • Posted 25 Sep 2020 02:20
  • By johnr_j
  • joined 3 Jun'06 - 1,446 messages
  • Georgia, United States
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If you are going to say some old spiel then at least get i right, what i said is people who know are company have seen the technology, not people who need to see it. many people who have asked for information have seen the info they wanted to see. Some people have said it looks good other made some very intersting coments that we have taken on board and are looking to improve certain parts on after feed back.

It really don't matter to me or our company if some one on a forum dosen't believe what we are saying, i bet if you were around in the day's of Marco Polo you would have been at the front of the queue saying the world is Flat
  • Posted 25 Sep 2020 01:37
  • By Exalteze
  • joined 7 Feb'20 - 89 messages
  • Halifax, United Kingdom
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Yaawnnn, same old spiel about the people who need to see it have seen it, is easy to say that as you as it sort of gets you out of proving anything doesn't it!
No one believes though.
  • Posted 25 Sep 2020 01:19
  • By mrLifter
  • joined 9 May'10 - 53 messages
  • Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom
Its like i have said the people who know our company have seen enough to know our technology exists and works, now to most companies in the world to day know they have to go carbon free over the next couple of years and yes there are a number of technologies out there to help make this happen. But at the moment there are only two vaible ways of doing this one is lead acid battery technology that has worked in smaller forklifts for years the other is IC engines running on a fuel that allows them to be 100% zero emission. The other two options that some people would talk about both really arn't options the first one is Lithium Iron battey technology. Tesla are the worlds top electric car manufacture and even they admit they can't get enought lithium iron batteries to meet their demand. The second option is Hydrogen, hydrogen to just way to expsensive to be competitive
  • Posted 24 Sep 2020 23:57
  • By Exalteze
  • joined 7 Feb'20 - 89 messages
  • Halifax, United Kingdom
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exalteze,
there is no evidence that proves it exists, other than you talking about it.
until you put that truck up in realtime either by video or photographic form specifically verifying your claims then all this banter you keep touting is meaningless without undisputable proof which you have shown no evidence of.
Most reputable lift truck manufacturers always put out advertisements of thier upcoming new units and when they release them they do it at a trade show with both photographic and video evidence showing the truck in action. You've been around long enough to know this so i wonder why you keep going on and on about it before you can even prove it?
Is this just your way of promoting the 'carbon free' initiative going on in the global market now? Showing your support for it but not really having anything to really contribute to it other than empty claims?
I think at this point? your best bet is to stay quiet till you can actually deliver on your claims sir.
You know the old adage 'put up or shut up'?
I think that definitely applies here at this point.

IF you ever come up with this mystery machine and actually show it? i'll surely be looking at it closely and i'm sure the whole industry will be doing that for sure. And THEN we'll see how viable this machine really is.
But you understand, NOBODY at this point is taking you seriously on it.
  • Posted 24 Sep 2020 23:32
  • By swoop223
  • joined 23 Mar'12 - 3,692 messages
  • North Carolina, United States
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There is evidence and people can see it. If you cant see it thats because you don't know us or our company. You claim i'm a lauthing stock in the UK yet you don't know me or the company because if you did you would have seen the truck and the technology.

by saying its a pointless statement just goes to show you don't know us or enything about us.Your just like all the rest of the people who comment on this you really don't know anything at all. But you like to claim you do. Just Like what was said about Taylor, in fact if you Google Taylor ZLC forklift you might just learn something
  • Posted 24 Sep 2020 23:32
  • By Exalteze
  • joined 7 Feb'20 - 89 messages
  • Halifax, United Kingdom
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Its a pointless statement saying there is evidence without showing any, end of.
  • Posted 24 Sep 2020 22:27
  • By mrLifter
  • joined 9 May'10 - 53 messages
  • Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom
There is evedance of our truck and like i said there will be an anoucment about our truck and our technology this quater
  • Posted 24 Sep 2020 22:24
  • By Exalteze
  • joined 7 Feb'20 - 89 messages
  • Halifax, United Kingdom
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But you are not showing anything are you and that is the problem, now if you had a shred of evidence of your truck then maybe someone would take you seriously.
  • Posted 24 Sep 2020 22:19
  • By mrLifter
  • joined 9 May'10 - 53 messages
  • Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom
Nice to see that you still know what you are talking about. The Taylor truck is not a diesel truck but in fact an electric and uses BYD battery technology. But hey why does this matter what ever I say people will look to twist it to suit there needs. Yes I did say diesel is going to die and it is but this doesn't mean that an IC engine will die. IC engines will continue with different fuel as we are showing
  • Posted 24 Sep 2020 22:15
  • By Exalteze
  • joined 7 Feb'20 - 89 messages
  • Halifax, United Kingdom
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Looks like Dazzlin Dave is at it again.
  • Posted 24 Sep 2020 20:05
  • By triumphrider
  • joined 31 Jan'11 - 304 messages
  • Texas, United States
glad i didn't hold my breath waiting, i'd of been deceased long ago ;)
of course it won't lifter01, after stringing everyone along for this long?
Notice how he goes into that speal about his electric truck versus other ones and kinda brushes off the fact taylor is a diesel like it doesn't count. And btw, didn't he say diesel trucks were going to die out? But yet they are still producing them like hotcakes WITH DEF systems on them greatly reducing the carbon emissions to near zero.
And personally i'd like to see the true specs on those taylor units to see if they are truly zero emissions or just near zero. You know how engineers like to fudge the algorythms to get their results they desire. Just ask Volkswagen how that went for them :P
  • Posted 24 Sep 2020 07:13
  • Modified 24 Sep 2020 07:13 by poster
  • By swoop223
  • joined 23 Mar'12 - 3,692 messages
  • North Carolina, United States
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Q4 in just over a week Dave is you wondertruck going to see the light of day pal??
  • Posted 24 Sep 2020 03:44
  • By lifter01
  • joined 4 Jul'09 - 463 messages
  • West Yorkshire, United Kingdom

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