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the End of Materials Handling as it is known today

The Materials Handling market is about to change. With only around six or seven of the world's manufactures serving. With in the next 10 years most warehouse will be completely different Companies like KION of China DAMATIC or TOYOTA of Japan VANDERLANDE will dominate the warehouse business with hole turnkey products. Pallet trucks, reach trucks VNA truck will all be replaced with automated equipment.

Counter balance forklift sales will also decline and be replaced with complete handling systems that will be able to move products around a facility with out the need of an operator. Out side the facility there will also be big changes Both Diesel and electric forklifts will be replaced with 100% zero emission products that will have much longer ranges then electric forklifts and will be able to handle loads up to 72,000kg while being 100% zero emission. Companies Like Hyster who have backed Hydrogen to the tune of up to $260 million investment will see this disappear as hydrogen forklifts wont be able to compete with the new technologies that will offer lower cost's ,no need for high pressure systems ,be less explosive and more cost effective than hydrogen.
  • Posted 22 Feb 2020 07:11
  • By Exalteze
  • joined 7 Feb'20 - 89 messages
  • Halifax, United Kingdom
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Hyster-Yale has reported third-quarter 2022 revenues increasing by 13.1% from the same time last year while unit shipments grew by 5.6%.
  • Posted 10 Nov 2022 23:48
  • By ChrisK
  • joined 28 Feb'14 - 142 messages
  • Kansas, United States
Ok what is the spec on the fueling connectors?
What is the servicing pressure for the fuel system?
Is available in a LPS Version?
  • Posted 21 Oct 2022 20:08
  • By Dexter1212
  • joined 30 Nov'21 - 65 messages
  • Texas, United States
whoa, that last post of his was pretty clear what this is all about
don't blink or you'll miss it...
get it yet?
  • Posted 21 Oct 2022 01:53
  • By swoop223
  • joined 23 Mar'12 - 3,691 messages
  • North Carolina, United States
You've been swooped!
swoop223@gmail.com
ie....No Truck
  • Posted 20 Oct 2022 23:02
  • By ChrisK
  • joined 28 Feb'14 - 142 messages
  • Kansas, United States
Firstly they is over 2,000 miles of ammonia pipe line in North America so getting ammonia would not be hard. What we will do is supply the ammonia with trucks so no matter where you are ammonia can easily be supplied


Second valuation, this is really quite hard to do first you will have what someone or a company is willing to pay and secondly what someone or a company is willing to accept.

For our project this is confidential as we are not a public traded company Where the markets decided the value with the market cap.if some wants to purchase a company they decide the price they want to pay , if the shareholders are happy it gets accepted if not it doesn't


In North America you have some SPACS with market caps over a billion but they have never sold a product. So value is a matter for both companies and shareholders
  • Posted 20 Oct 2022 22:42
  • Modified 20 Oct 2022 22:49 by poster
  • By Letaq60n
  • joined 29 Nov'20 - 83 messages
  • W. Yorkshire, United Kingdom
OK what is your company net worth today. BTW you have never answered my question about the fueling connectors and the fuel suppliers here in texas for your supertruck.
  • Posted 20 Oct 2022 19:53
  • By Dexter1212
  • joined 30 Nov'21 - 65 messages
  • Texas, United States
It will all depend on how the majority shareholders look at it, will they want to sell, will they want to take it private, will they just hope they can turn the company round.

Hyster Yale brand recognition is quite strong so the brands might stay around but as a stand alone company or part of a larger organisation that will depend.
  • Posted 20 Oct 2022 04:33
  • By Letaq60n
  • joined 29 Nov'20 - 83 messages
  • W. Yorkshire, United Kingdom
Hyster Yale are not going away.
  • Posted 20 Oct 2022 03:50
  • By ChrisK
  • joined 28 Feb'14 - 142 messages
  • Kansas, United States
Hyster Yale market cap in 2017 was $1.4 billion today it is $428 million that's over a 60% drop.

Any company that sees its market cap drop by this much in five years is in trouble.


That's quite clear or to put it in clear terms $ 1,400 investment in Hyster Yale in 2017 is now worth $ 428 today
  • Posted 20 Oct 2022 03:46
  • Modified 20 Oct 2022 03:48 by poster
  • By Letaq60n
  • joined 29 Nov'20 - 83 messages
  • W. Yorkshire, United Kingdom
You and your INVESTORS must have dumped some serious coin into this never ending project over the past years but haven't produced a single working fully functional unit just more "kisses & promises" that one will appear for a show and tell some day. But some day never seems to happen,. Just a word merchant me and others think,. Credibility = zero..
Reminds me of this some from the Wizard of Oz
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/somewhere_over_the_rainbow
  • Posted 20 Oct 2022 03:17
  • By johnr_j
  • joined 3 Jun'06 - 1,452 messages
  • Georgia, United States
"Have An Exceptional Day!"
Your conjecture over the demise of Hyster-Yale has been going on for years. Much like your super truck none of it has come true.
  • Posted 20 Oct 2022 03:05
  • By ChrisK
  • joined 28 Feb'14 - 142 messages
  • Kansas, United States
Ok why not because you say so. You can tell yourself they are not in trouble and you can beleive they are not in trouble. But that wont change the fact they are going to have big write downs,



I said some time ago they were going to make huge losses and last year they made quite a large loss. But im just knocking Hyster Yale and their mangement KION had a turnover of 10.3 Billion Euro and made a EBIT of 842 Million Euro , so when you look at Hyster Yale against KION they are in trouble
  • Posted 20 Oct 2022 03:01
  • By Letaq60n
  • joined 29 Nov'20 - 83 messages
  • W. Yorkshire, United Kingdom
No matter how you try to spin it, they're not.
  • Posted 20 Oct 2022 02:54
  • By ChrisK
  • joined 28 Feb'14 - 142 messages
  • Kansas, United States
Hyster Yale lost $173 Million they have pumped over $200 Million into Nuvera all of which will have to be writen off in the next coupe of years when people relise hydrogen fuel cells are not Viable. They have just put a Hydrogen Truck into ther port of Los Angeles that has a range of only 10 hours and it needs two hydrogen fuel cells.
Hyster Yale are in big trouble they paid $110 Million for a small chinese manufacture thats around 25% of their market cap. In fact over the next two to three years they wll write of over 50% of their market cap. and you belive their not in trouble
  • Posted 20 Oct 2022 02:50
  • Modified 20 Oct 2022 02:51 by poster
  • By Letaq60n
  • joined 29 Nov'20 - 83 messages
  • W. Yorkshire, United Kingdom
They're not.
  • Posted 20 Oct 2022 01:49
  • By ChrisK
  • joined 28 Feb'14 - 142 messages
  • Kansas, United States
No you have your opinion, but you can't say that Hyster Yale are not in trouble
  • Posted 20 Oct 2022 01:47
  • By Letaq60n
  • joined 29 Nov'20 - 83 messages
  • W. Yorkshire, United Kingdom
And yet you still haven't sold a single Wonder Truck. Something we all have pointed out before. You also won't sell a single Wonder Truck in the next couple of years, again you will say the same old BS about your non existent product. We don't need to point out your lack of progress as your results do this on THEIR own.

Insert the "glad you know so much about our company" response here.
  • Posted 19 Oct 2022 23:09
  • By ChrisK
  • joined 28 Feb'14 - 142 messages
  • Kansas, United States
Ok so you made your point. Like I said your free to your opinion. But you also seem to say I'm talking trash talk about another manufacturer. I take by this you mean Hyster Yale, so ok they lost $173 million last year something I have pointed out before. They will also lose more in the next couple of years again you will say I'm just knocking Hyster Yale but I don't need to as their results do this all on there own
  • Posted 19 Oct 2022 23:01
  • By Letaq60n
  • joined 29 Nov'20 - 83 messages
  • W. Yorkshire, United Kingdom
Trash talk trash talk trash talk. Ok to trash talk a Major mfg?

Do not need your censorship.
  • Posted 19 Oct 2022 20:30
  • By Dexter1212
  • joined 30 Nov'21 - 65 messages
  • Texas, United States
Don't know if the post was aimed at me because I didn't see it. But it seems most are.

I personally think that everyone is entitled to have their own opinion, and they should be free to say this. Some people might be offended but that not the person who said it fault.
  • Posted 17 Oct 2022 22:47
  • By Letaq60n
  • joined 29 Nov'20 - 83 messages
  • W. Yorkshire, United Kingdom

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