Eastman Kodak is still in business, they still produce film as well as other consumer products. In 2019 they employed 4922 people and had a net income of 116 million USD.

Nokia employs 98,322 people and had a revenue of 43.857 billion Euros.

Hyster/Yale will be around in the next couple of years, and for years long after your failure makes it to market, if it actually makes it to market. The ONLY person in this story who won't be around in 10 years is YOU

So what you are saying do your reseach look at the facts, know your products. Kodak was making films for over 50 years but ware are they now. The past means nothing to day its the past. Hyster Yale are looking at a massive rite down probelbly 50% of their market capital in a market that is around 40% down.

If they servive the next couple of years they will be lucky. Hyster Yale will be one of the first companies to be taken over in the next two years. they won't be on their own either there will be many more to follow. but they will be the first to go.

Now you can call this trolling but what i say is its doing our research knowing the technologies of tomorrow and understanding the value of companies. Unfortunatly Hyster yale don't seem to understand this.

Hyster yale believe customers will pay $13 per Kg of hydrogen even a reach stacker would need around 6kg per hour.They believe customer will pay around $1 Million for a reach stacker. Or $56,000 for a three ton forklift. Hyster Yale bet the company on Hydrogen and it looks like they will loose big time. Then add Maximal a near banckrupt Chinese manufacture with no real home market who made around 3,500 units a year at the time of purchase for $100 Milllion pluss $10 million investment and you can see ware its all goin to go wrong for Hyster Yale. The only hope they have is Donald Trump stoping Chinese companies buying Americain companies other wise Hangcha will own them within two years. Hyster Yale will be like Kodak, Nokia, Blackbury and Blockbusters a company of the past. they certainly won't be around for another 10 years never mind 90 year. The $110 Million of shareholders money they waisted on Maximal and the $200+Million they have waisted on hydrogen might just have saved them, now they will be looking at the brink of being purchased for around 25% of their value


But then again what does it matter you will only say i'm trolling Hyster Yale




Known of you who comment will say who you are who you work for all you do is people know me. But do they CHris K you make out that you are a desinger for Landoll but Landoll use the Bendi Truck desing , so what do you desing

It would be a safe bet that neither Hyster nor Yale, two companies who have been producing forklift for over 90 years, are worried about a forum troll who has spent the last decade trying to talk them out of existence, let alone actually producing a product of his own.

I believe you have used two different screen names (Exalt & Exalteze)from different counties (UAE & UK) over the past few years. Which one is your real name? or is it Dave, David or??

as people on here comment don't even put there names or anything about them selfs on here so you don't really know who they are.



If you knew you would be shocked about people on here and who reads what.

Exalt,

Do you really expect someone from the NACCO group to comment on this? They are a publicly traded company.
For that matter do you really expect any manufacture to comment?

Why Do you really beleive that the Hyster deals are good deals

You also told us over and over again that the truck would be released in April....or did you conveniently forget that?

As far as your predictions about Hyster, those make you look like a bigger idiot than your promises of a super truck. That is not my "opinion" either.

To me the same people comment on this and they are either conected to Hyster or work for Hyster dealers or an other manufacture. the reason i say Hyster is there are some points that make us think that way, One reason why might because they know i right in what i say about Hyster because not one of them has commented on the parts i believe will be the end of Hyster Yale. this will be a $250 million write down on the Hyster NUVERA and Maximal deals some time in the next couple of years.


What their opion is to do,is they will try to discredit what we are doing as a company, IE by say we use a diesel engine when quite clearly we don't. The also seem to say quite offten in there comments when can they see the truck. When i have said over and over agin there will be an annocement this quater.

well no you say there is a diesel component, there isn't a diesel coponent in the truck its Ammonia that runs the engine not diesel. basically all the ammonia engine is there to do is keep the battery charged nothing else all the truck runs as electric.
because we use new technology on the battery there are no issues on the electrics. We have seen the test for the batteries and their perfomance is suitable for our requierments

I don't know were you have got the idea of diesel from i have always said there is NO DIESEL but you keep on refering to DIESEL. There is no Diesel on the truck.


I have said Diesel truck won't be around in five years time. KION say by 2025 95% of the trucks they sell will be Lithium Iron. Diesel trucks are finished, what we have is a tottaly different truck its an Ammonia hybrid truck that is 100% ZERO EMISSION.

Now like i siad repeatedly Hydrogen won't work because of the cost and other problems with hydrogen. lithium Iron won't work because of range and the need for intermitant charging, that would cause issue with the battery over heating and catching fire. Plus every time you intermitently charge and Lithium iron battery it losses part of its opperating life. So basically all you are doing is making the power supply shorter.

well it's a contradiction
the truck can't be "pure" electric if there is a diesel component on it.
you're trying to have it both ways telling us that it is 'pure electric' but oh yeah, there is this diesel engine on there too just to keep the battery charged.
So now not only does the customer have to worry about the battery and electric part of the truck they also have to worry about the diesel and fuel part too.
What i'm saying here is if your promoting 'going green' having that diesel engine on there contradicts the 'getting rid of fossil fuels' agenda that i keep hearing those carbon free supporters touting all the time. If we look at it from that standpoint your hybrid truck will become obsolete before you even get it off the ground good if they get what they want.
And besides that, havn't i seen you say more than once that diesel engines will be a thing of the past very soon? That also makes it very confusing that you would build a truck with diesel technology on it if diesel power is going to be extinct in the near future because of the carbon free initiative.
Get my drift?

What I would like to know how is he planning on refueling these? I found a fair amount or articles that say the biggest draw back to this type of system is the infrastructure to support said system.

OK on a tight turn how do you control the inside wheel speed , torque, and direction, or otherwise known as differntal steering? How about the outside wheel?

we have always said its an ammonia hybrid, The Letaq Exalt V Range employs a 100% Zero Emission ammonia hybrid system, where the zero emission ammonia engine a compact 4.4L 4 cylinder works at optimum speed as a energy generator to charge the battery. The engine is disconcerted from the Wheels and hydraulics and drive is provided by two electric motors in each front wheel hub, with two electric motors providing power for the lift, tilt & power steering.

The result of this system is a highly efficient electric continuously variable drive, that requires No Clutch / Torque Converter, No Mechanical Transmission, No Drive Shafts, No Differential Axle. This ensures fewer moving parts, an optimum energy flow and fewer power and energy loss


The drawing are to give peopel an idea of what the final truck will look like. The final truck will be shown when we do the annocement later this quater

well very good
you made a web page with some data on these two units and i saw a couple others as well.
Your concept i'm afraid looks a lot like the hybrid designs cars are already using with the generator motor to charge the batteries like in the first gen toyota prius and a couple of those other brands that came out with this concept.
no cgi presentation on this site?
presenting it as 'pure electric' ???
what about that ammonia power pack? 4 cyl diesel engine running to charge the battery pack is hardly 'pure electric' sir.
It would be more accurate to call it a hybrid electric, the legal crap you can get into over things like that you don't want.
Who designed your website anyway? not very professional looking imo.
And the concept drawings of the lifts your showing doesn't convince anyone they are real sir.
What's that thing over the operators compartment? a cover? a helmet? a bad hairdoo? what?
dude, you really need to either show it and i mean ACTUALLY show it or get used to being labeled the con man your looking like.
sorry but enough is enough.