swoop

Have you ever noticed he never answers direct questions? Instead just regurgitates the same general claims he has been spouting for years?


exalt:

Yes NASA had the backing of the US Government, but NASA sent a man to the moon, something that had never been done before. You are building a forklift, which most definitely is not rocket science.

i knew you were gonna say that :oD

If you look at Johnj r post he says 2. Fact: Engineering at its very best is still full of compromises what i did was to answer these questions that is why the post says

1 end user will ultimately decide, yes you are correct the end user will decide on our product and here's why

2 other companies might compromise on their engineering this is what i was refering to in my post.



NASSA had the US goverment behind them and if we had a government behind us we would have also been quicker. What we have done though is make some very important break thoughs that will not only affect the materials handling industry but also all industries that realy on IC engines. Why because we are able to show that you can run an IC engine as a 100% zero emision power plant not 50% or 80% but 100% zero emission.

so, what part of these other 2 companies did they compromise in their engineering?
what's compromised?
seems most (main name brand) mfg's haven't compromised anything since they have very stringent protocols to meet when designing their products.
The only compromised machines i see on the market are those that try and copy main brand machines and take drastic shortcuts to keep from being implicated in copyright design infringements. And of course we have those that just make bad designed units, those almost always never gain any traction in the market because they don't sell or have bad press due to the constant failure and high cost and poor service they project.

yeah chrisk, they built all of the nasa projects in less time, that includes the launch and recovery (end of mission) in less time, and we actually got to see a lot of it.
Can't say that here can we?
Since exhault's first advertisement of this how many Launches, moon missions and space walks have we done?
LoL :oD

"2 other companies might compromise on their engineering we don't this is why it has taken longer than I wanted. We design and build without compromise."


Did you know it took less time for the Apollo project to land a man on the moon?

Yes yours have offered $1,000,000 for your safe return

Is it true most villages pay good money for the safe return of their idiots?

Let answer the question firstly looking at jonhr j post,

1 end user will ultimately decide, yes you are correct the end user will decide on our product and here's why. The end user needs to be sustainable not just for them self's but also for their customers Governments and states are putting in laws that mean end users need to move to a more sustainable product. What the OEM's in this industry can offer is one of three options lead acid, lithium iron or hydrogen. Forget hydrogen its just to expensive and the platinum plates in the fuel cell will need changing around every 12 month because of truck vibration. So this leaves lead acid or lithium iron. Lead acid has poor range and issues in heat, lithium again has major issues from catching fire due to failure or over heating when charging. To how long they will last. Every time you charge a lithium iron battery it looses part of its life span. Our truck offers the customer a 100% zero emission option with the same range productivity efficiency and cost effectiveness as a diesel but with out the emissions

2 other companies might compromise on their engineering we don't this is why it has taken longer than I wanted. We design and build without compromise.

When the truck hits the market customers will seen it and use it.

Now for swoops

we have no issues on funding our backers know what we are doing and support us, as for where we are based we have a design studio in the UK and a assembly plant in Dubai.


The trucks are built using sub assemblies meaning we don't need an assembly line, we can ship the modular to customers and can assemble them with in four hours. This is a complete 16 ton truck the seven units would only take four hours to completely assemble. When we started out on this project we were looking at diesel but as times have moved and we now know that diesel won't be around in ten years. we have used another technology. Instead of following the rest of the OEM's into battery or waist money on hydrogen we moved into another fuel source.


The reason nobody in materials handling industry is looking at this fuel is quite simple they are all looking at what each other are doing and just following each other. Nokia and blackbury all had the same technology as Apple only Apple used it. The same with cars every one had access to lithium iron batteries yet Tesla has shown every one up by using lithium and getting so far in front know one can catch them.

This is not sales propaganda. You might say well it sure look like it but the real reason is we don't need to promote the truck because the truck will just sell its self. We will be the only company that a customer can rent the truck from that would include fuel and service all for a fixed price over the term of the contract. With an 8 hour back in service guarantee or we pay them for every hour their truck is down over 8 hours.


We are not stalling we had made quite a big technological change and this took some time but we are ready now.

why am i feeling like we are caught in an endless time loop here?
it keeps repeating itself over and over and over and over...


Are you having a problem getting someone to back this effort so you can actually build this thing?
I mean seriously, since your location keeps moving over the years from dubai, then saudi, and now UK, it kind of looks that way since you keep moving around...
have to have mfg's to build these components that most likely will take specificly built assembly lines etc. If this thing was as good as you say then these money men should be jumping at the chance to do this and this truck would have been out long ago. There is something holding this up and that is the only logical thing i can think of as to why it has not come out yet. Not to mention your sales banter, you keep saying the same things and nobody has taken the bait yet, if they had we would of heard about it by now.
Nobody is talking about it across the material handling industry that i can see (i've been in this industry over 40yrs), so all we have is YOU trying to sell it and not showing any real evidence it is even a viable candidate for any sort of marketing in any sense other than a bunch of sales propaganda.

maybe that's why you keep stalling?
Just calling it like i see it ;)

1. Fact: End users will ultimately be the judge of your and any other design concept along with product support, reputation. efficiency/productivity claims, etc. Until a product is brought to market it is just a story book full of pictures & nice words/claims
2. Fact: Engineering at its very best is still full of compromises.
3. Fact: Most users I've ever encountered believe in the US state of Missouri's motto '"Show Me" or as another poster stated "Put Up or Shut Up".

The technical info is correct these are the sizes and performance of our trucks. as for credible sources to back up all our Data. Then yes this will all be done and annouced in good time.


Now i'm not asking you to believe me you are welcome to your own opion. But i'm also welcome to mine and as i know a lot more about our company, products and technical capabilaties as against what is in the market today and the future i very conferdent that our product and technology will be not only game changing but also the best technology and products in the market for forklifts over 10,000kg and mobile container handling.

Where is the proof?
You have been spouting off about this truck for at least 5 or more years but no proof.
Anyone can build a website and put concept drawings on it as well as putting technical information as to what they hope to achieve but until you actually produce trucks and have credible sources to back your data no one is going to believe you.

Well we still have the best technology in the market and are still many years infront of every one else

who else can produce a 16,000kg forklift with a 15 hour range a 10 min refueling time while being 100% zeo emission at a cost effective price range

Your truck will be the biggest dud since Y2K

well the announcement will be the revealing of the truck. yes it will change the hole market for big trucks over 10,000kg and mobile container handling, yes it will have a big impact on the smaller truck market from 2,000kg - 8,000kg, yes it is 100% zero emission with a range and perfomance compairable to diesel with the lowest Total Cost Of Ownership in the market when compared to other OEM's with simular quality product. comanies Like Kalmar, kone Cranes, Hyster,Carer and some of the top Chinese manufactures like Heli, Sany and Hangcha.

I will say that back in February we did not no about Covid and yes this has had an effect on the market and how we have been able to work. But this not me saying well because of Covid we won't be revealing the truck in this quater. we are only at the beginning of this quater and like i have said the truck will be revealed before the end.

we are in a better position than most OEM's in this industry who have suffered possibly up to a 40% - 60% drop in their production while their fixed overheads have stayed the same, Yes we have better technology and are in a much stronger position than eny of the other OEM's in this range. Unlike Hyster who have put $100's of millions into the development of hydrogen in the hope to get a major foot hold in North Americain ports and terminals with their hydrogen trucks.

we have developed a much better system that will out perfome a hydrogen fuel cell truck, a battery electric truck and a Diesel truck and be more cost effective. So yes i'm very conferdent on our product and technology.

@exalteze
On February 24, 2020 here are your exact words

"Well The new truck that will change the global counter balance forklift market will be out in the fourth Quarter this year."

BTW you repeated this claim twice on the same date in another post.
Now your most recent post uses verbiage that strongly suggests you are already starting to crawfish on this proclamation. As I see it, the words "will be out" and an "announcement" (from your most current statement) have two different and distinct meanings. One produces a less than positive reflection on ones integrity and credibility.

If you are going to say some old spiel then at least get i right, what i said is people who know are company have seen the technology, not people who need to see it. many people who have asked for information have seen the info they wanted to see. Some people have said it looks good other made some very intersting coments that we have taken on board and are looking to improve certain parts on after feed back.

It really don't matter to me or our company if some one on a forum dosen't believe what we are saying, i bet if you were around in the day's of Marco Polo you would have been at the front of the queue saying the world is Flat

Yaawnnn, same old spiel about the people who need to see it have seen it, is easy to say that as you as it sort of gets you out of proving anything doesn't it!
No one believes though.

Its like i have said the people who know our company have seen enough to know our technology exists and works, now to most companies in the world to day know they have to go carbon free over the next couple of years and yes there are a number of technologies out there to help make this happen. But at the moment there are only two vaible ways of doing this one is lead acid battery technology that has worked in smaller forklifts for years the other is IC engines running on a fuel that allows them to be 100% zero emission. The other two options that some people would talk about both really arn't options the first one is Lithium Iron battey technology. Tesla are the worlds top electric car manufacture and even they admit they can't get enought lithium iron batteries to meet their demand. The second option is Hydrogen, hydrogen to just way to expsensive to be competitive

exalteze,
there is no evidence that proves it exists, other than you talking about it.
until you put that truck up in realtime either by video or photographic form specifically verifying your claims then all this banter you keep touting is meaningless without undisputable proof which you have shown no evidence of.
Most reputable lift truck manufacturers always put out advertisements of thier upcoming new units and when they release them they do it at a trade show with both photographic and video evidence showing the truck in action. You've been around long enough to know this so i wonder why you keep going on and on about it before you can even prove it?
Is this just your way of promoting the 'carbon free' initiative going on in the global market now? Showing your support for it but not really having anything to really contribute to it other than empty claims?
I think at this point? your best bet is to stay quiet till you can actually deliver on your claims sir.
You know the old adage 'put up or shut up'?
I think that definitely applies here at this point.

IF you ever come up with this mystery machine and actually show it? i'll surely be looking at it closely and i'm sure the whole industry will be doing that for sure. And THEN we'll see how viable this machine really is.
But you understand, NOBODY at this point is taking you seriously on it.