The Materials Handling market is about to change. With only around six or seven of the world's manufactures serving. With in the next 10 years most warehouse will be completely different Companies like KION of China DAMATIC or TOYOTA of Japan VANDERLANDE will dominate the warehouse business with hole turnkey products. Pallet trucks, reach trucks VNA truck will all be replaced with automated equipment.
Counter balance forklift sales will also decline and be replaced with complete handling systems that will be able to move products around a facility with out the need of an operator. Out side the facility there will also be big changes Both Diesel and electric forklifts will be replaced with 100% zero emission products that will have much longer ranges then electric forklifts and will be able to handle loads up to 72,000kg while being 100% zero emission. Companies Like Hyster who have backed Hydrogen to the tune of up to $260 million investment will see this disappear as hydrogen forklifts wont be able to compete with the new technologies that will offer lower cost's ,no need for high pressure systems ,be less explosive and more cost effective than hydrogen.
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Exalt, i have serious question. Have you built any units? Have they been operating in site to prove they will stand the test of time?
Most manufactures will build a few units and get someone to use them for a few month or longer to find weak points and to make sure they are as good as they thought they would be.
It takes a lot more hours for yours to be built, you have been spouting off about building a truck on here since around 2010 and still nothing.....
Now you say i avoid answering question but nobody has answerd a simple question of
Now because all of you are so expert in IC forklift tell one company that is not a clone of the oringinal Clark design
So like i have said you all seem to be experts on this subject but one of you can answer this very simple question. Is it because you know the answer but would have to agree with me all IC forklifts are basic clones of the original Clark product. yes there have been advancements in transmissions like hydrostatic or hybrids. But the princeipal design has not changed.
A 16 ton forklift can not be shipped in a standard 40' container with out being stripped down first. So if a 16 ton forklift was manufactured in Europe and then sold in North America, it would have to be assembled tested then dis assembled for shipping. What we do is just test the moduduals then ship the truck in modular format in standared 40' containers then we can assemble that at our nearest depot before delivering them to customer. The cost saving on this is quite large. just to build a 16 ton forklift takes around 200 hours for a traditional OEM then they have dismaltiling time and re assembly time for shipping. The time it takes us the Build a 16 ton forklift is 100 hours and if the truck is having to be shipped overseas we don't need to disassemble it.
did he just mention Clark?
really? are they still in business? well they are i think but no where near what they used to be.
at least around my part of the country they aren't.
and yeah he could be a politician, talks alot and avoids answering the questions
like where is the mystery truck? Lets see it...
all we get is crickets... (you know, those pesky bugs that make alot of noise but you hardly ever see one) :oD
Since your world beater fork lift has yet to be in production and shipped to end users and it is still undergoing technical advancements it still must be in the "test tube" and yet to user validate the myriad of your claims.
When I used the word compromise I was referring to design factors such as: mean time between failure goals, useful economic life, cost to manufacture/produce, creature features, value added analysis, performance goals, compliance to what various, standards e.g. design, safety, environmental.
Certainly a Chevy Impala is built to different standards than a comparable model Mercedes or for grins a Yugo.
Says the guy who would spend years talking about he designed the paper airplane to end all other paper airplanes, and will release it in April, or Q4, or whatever time he decides to make up.
Like i have said you all have your own opion, and you probebly could find some one to design you a paper air plane. because you surely arnt capable of designing one your selfs
It was more like 1.5 million USD Look, Turn your self in to your village , escape again then use the money to finance your super truck.
I don't reall care if you are stuck in the old ways and like i have said before you would have been at the front of the queue to tell Marko Polo that the world is flat, or Stve Jobs that Apple could not make a smart phone , or Elon Musk that electric car would never work.
So like i have said you will always change thing to your own opion
To bad you don't understand you have done NOTHING to change people's opinions.
what ever i say some peopel on here will just cahnge to their own opion, this is fine.
and no we have not just made another forklift truck that are clones of the original clark forklift from 100 years ago like other OEM's. What we have done is tottaly change the desing of the forklift and how they are powered some that no other forklift OEM has done.
We are the only forklift company to have a 100% Zero emission forklift that has all the same performannces as a diesel truck at a price that is lower in TCO than other 100% zero emission trucks. That is also 100% fully modular constructed meaning you can change moduals in less than one hour.
This is why we can build trucks much better, ship trucks much more cost effectively, offer services that no other forklift OEM can.
Now because all of you are so expert in IC forklift tell one company that is not a clone of the oringinal Clark design
He would be a good politician, never answers a question directly, full of promises that never happen
swoop
Have you ever noticed he never answers direct questions? Instead just regurgitates the same general claims he has been spouting for years?
exalt:
Yes NASA had the backing of the US Government, but NASA sent a man to the moon, something that had never been done before. You are building a forklift, which most definitely is not rocket science.
i knew you were gonna say that :oD
If you look at Johnj r post he says 2. Fact: Engineering at its very best is still full of compromises what i did was to answer these questions that is why the post says
1 end user will ultimately decide, yes you are correct the end user will decide on our product and here's why
2 other companies might compromise on their engineering this is what i was refering to in my post.
NASSA had the US goverment behind them and if we had a government behind us we would have also been quicker. What we have done though is make some very important break thoughs that will not only affect the materials handling industry but also all industries that realy on IC engines. Why because we are able to show that you can run an IC engine as a 100% zero emision power plant not 50% or 80% but 100% zero emission.
so, what part of these other 2 companies did they compromise in their engineering?
what's compromised?
seems most (main name brand) mfg's haven't compromised anything since they have very stringent protocols to meet when designing their products.
The only compromised machines i see on the market are those that try and copy main brand machines and take drastic shortcuts to keep from being implicated in copyright design infringements. And of course we have those that just make bad designed units, those almost always never gain any traction in the market because they don't sell or have bad press due to the constant failure and high cost and poor service they project.
yeah chrisk, they built all of the nasa projects in less time, that includes the launch and recovery (end of mission) in less time, and we actually got to see a lot of it.
Can't say that here can we?
Since exhault's first advertisement of this how many Launches, moon missions and space walks have we done?
LoL :oD
"2 other companies might compromise on their engineering we don't this is why it has taken longer than I wanted. We design and build without compromise."
Did you know it took less time for the Apollo project to land a man on the moon?
Yes yours have offered $1,000,000 for your safe return
Is it true most villages pay good money for the safe return of their idiots?
Let answer the question firstly looking at jonhr j post,
1 end user will ultimately decide, yes you are correct the end user will decide on our product and here's why. The end user needs to be sustainable not just for them self's but also for their customers Governments and states are putting in laws that mean end users need to move to a more sustainable product. What the OEM's in this industry can offer is one of three options lead acid, lithium iron or hydrogen. Forget hydrogen its just to expensive and the platinum plates in the fuel cell will need changing around every 12 month because of truck vibration. So this leaves lead acid or lithium iron. Lead acid has poor range and issues in heat, lithium again has major issues from catching fire due to failure or over heating when charging. To how long they will last. Every time you charge a lithium iron battery it looses part of its life span. Our truck offers the customer a 100% zero emission option with the same range productivity efficiency and cost effectiveness as a diesel but with out the emissions
2 other companies might compromise on their engineering we don't this is why it has taken longer than I wanted. We design and build without compromise.
When the truck hits the market customers will seen it and use it.
Now for swoops
we have no issues on funding our backers know what we are doing and support us, as for where we are based we have a design studio in the UK and a assembly plant in Dubai.
The trucks are built using sub assemblies meaning we don't need an assembly line, we can ship the modular to customers and can assemble them with in four hours. This is a complete 16 ton truck the seven units would only take four hours to completely assemble. When we started out on this project we were looking at diesel but as times have moved and we now know that diesel won't be around in ten years. we have used another technology. Instead of following the rest of the OEM's into battery or waist money on hydrogen we moved into another fuel source.
The reason nobody in materials handling industry is looking at this fuel is quite simple they are all looking at what each other are doing and just following each other. Nokia and blackbury all had the same technology as Apple only Apple used it. The same with cars every one had access to lithium iron batteries yet Tesla has shown every one up by using lithium and getting so far in front know one can catch them.
This is not sales propaganda. You might say well it sure look like it but the real reason is we don't need to promote the truck because the truck will just sell its self. We will be the only company that a customer can rent the truck from that would include fuel and service all for a fixed price over the term of the contract. With an 8 hour back in service guarantee or we pay them for every hour their truck is down over 8 hours.
We are not stalling we had made quite a big technological change and this took some time but we are ready now.
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