@sandness
I'll soon be 72 & I have lower back pain now. Never had a back problem until this year. Guess I'm just getting old or it has something to do with recently cutting down a 40+ ft. tall x 25+ feet wide Bradford pear tree limb by limb that split & fell across my drive way. BTW they have a a whole lot of limbs

And our some what expensive Lazy Boy chair w/ vibration, lumbar adjustment, heated doesn't give me any relief. Dang! The bottom cushion is definitely contoured to my buttock during football season.

My Doctor said I will survive but stay off ladders indefinitely and away from chain saws for a while.

Oh this rant has nothing to do with F/L either but I was around them for 41 years.