A lot of the trucks that come of hire are sold on to emerging markets or back into europe. Companies like Linde and Jungheinrich have plants that only referb trucks and then sell them on. I don't know any ware they scrap truck just after five years. One point that has come out is that customers in the US use there truck over a longer period than in Europe. There have been one or two 10 year contracts lately but most are five years. The customer seems to get a better service on this with newer more productive trucks. We are looking into a new way of rental that will combine both benefits of the north american and european markets