Knew you weren't actually calling me cutthroat. I know many up here who are that way too. I get a good variety but not many cats and mitshis, not newer ones anyway, Thompson has done a good job of cornering their own up here. I am anxious to see what happens myself. There were more than a few hiccups and some of the changes barloworld tried to implement just drove a wedge in things. The VP from LiftOne who spoke with us said they were going to meet with each one personally and allow us to voice concerns so maybe we can avoid some of the pitfalls. Who knows how it will go but I do have some things I want to address when the time comes. By the way, I have had the "pleasure" of dealing with a few Kalmars. Birmingham is my base, but I go their only on rare occasions for meetings and such.