Bit of stick for me there then , sounds like MrLift has been to a MAX CLIFFORD breakfast club could be his scene. The Millreef point is well made but CAT is an earthmoving brand and never been a good forklift truck ever. Stop sounding so bitter about Richard Close he only gets £350 K p.a.and Briggs did make a fiver 2 years ago , its even been framed. If your`e still not happy MRLift can get you in at ATLET uuuuhhhzzzzzzzzz