For Hank, wow it seems like you are not too fond of Crown. Must be from one of the dealerships in Florida that Crown pulled. Give it a little time for this new unit to get out there and then you will see why customers will leave their current IC truck provider and switch to the C5. If you have been in this business for a while you should know by now that Crown eventually ends up dominating in all areas of this business. As for Toyota, Raymond and the other IC products...Crown is american made! We keep jobs here! Ever try buying a part for a Toyota/Nissan IC truck that needs to come from Japan? The prices are rediculous! Lets talk lowest cost of ownership sometime.