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OT: Does anybody experience this?

Hi I didn't really wanted to put this on other subtopic like chat, as I only want input from Raymond Techs, we have about 8 8900's tranports, 2 singles, 2 triples, and 4 doubles. We get a tremendous amount of downtime on them triples, mainly for damage, like pull rods, hyd cylinders which I think it might be for overloading, daily blown fuses, flat tires, etc. How do you guys deal with this? Is there a better way to transport multiple pallets? We have spent an enourmous amount of money on those two triples that we could have easily bought a new one, or a couple of doubles, drivers don't care they ram into everything and everything and drag wheels, until they are flat, management does a very poor job at writing people up for damage equipment. Your input is greatly appreciated.
  • Posted 29 Aug 2012 02:54
  • By fredz0003
  • joined 25 Feb'11 - 69 messages
  • Texas, United States
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It all boils down to how the driver's treat the machine. They are obviously abusing them. If your customer is paying the bills with no fuss, then all you can do is advise them. If your on a fixed maintenance contract, then you all have to sit down and have a frank discussion about abuse to the machines. Most drivers don't balance the load, putting a heavy skid at the rear.
Blown fuses are from pushing skids, overloading. Yellow single smoothy tires work best. I find the triple ones fails 3 times more!
Sounds like no one is cleaning the floors.....wood and plastic take their toll. As long as you have explained to the customer, you've done your part. They pay for their mistakes, and you keep busy!
  • Posted 23 Jan 2013 12:18
  • By EasiTek
  • joined 12 Aug'08 - 533 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
Check lift pressure relief, often overlooked. If you are moving decked skids with these units you may want to reconsider that as a higher center of gravity will add to the frame twist.
  • Posted 21 Jan 2013 08:09
  • By stam
  • joined 12 Aug'12 - 779 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
i have many accounts like this, have you tried the yellow smoothie wheels? they help a little, but one stick and its all over.
try taking some shims out of the caster wheels allowing more pressure on the drive tire in hope to not get stuck.
the fuses would be more likely to blow when the motor is stalled
assuming your talking about the blade fuse right on the traction amp. are your batteries changed out when dead, or charged in the jack? the reason i ask is i am positive your blown fuses are not a normal occurrence, and am also sure there is some other not so obvious cause here.. i know its hard to keep triple jacks up and running due to the major weight and work load involved, in my opinion they should only be trusted to the best operators due to the small room for error involved. if the operator are a slam n go type they should be on a single!
with a good slow cautious driver the triple will still run circles around the other options. i have one customer that has crowns, and raymonds. both with the same problems. it really boils down to how its used.
  • Posted 31 Aug 2012 10:03
  • By derrick_r
  • joined 28 Aug'12 - 16 messages
  • Utah, United States
@derrick_r Only if you knew buddy, we do have IDS systems with built in checklist and is a joke, we use nothing but three wheel kits on doubles, and split wheel on triples, one of the biggest problems is that they transport a lot of water heavy pallets on cheap wood, and operators are no picking up pallets on the right spot and they are tearing up pallets like crazy. We try to do as much maintenance as we can, but we don't have a full time forklift mechanic, and we can barely keep up with damaged equipment. Batteries are all well kept, fuses only get blown when they get stuck on a pallet and start burning the drive tire. As far as making people accountable for checking forklifts, or reporting damage, managers aren't doing their job, and all operators got nothing but bad habits. Triples are tearing up pallets a lot but I know it comes down to the operators.
  • Posted 30 Aug 2012 22:31
  • By fredz0003
  • joined 25 Feb'11 - 69 messages
  • Texas, United States
Raymond Action
well a id systems power box will tell you everything you need to know! blown fuses are battery neglect, or shorts. i vote for the first one.. flat spots on the wheel are from dragging sticks or dirty warehouse... a three wheel kit might help, but equipment will only take care of you; if you take care of it!!!!


turn all your jacks down to 4-5 mph for a week, and see how much the abuse cuts in half also!

are you doing daily check list, and checkouts on each truck?
holding each driver responsible for the guy before and after them is not only smart, but some what of an osha law...
couple that with good, or really good maintenance. and your triples will be 8000 lbs again; no problem!
  • Posted 30 Aug 2012 13:46
  • Modified 30 Aug 2012 13:53 by poster
  • By derrick_r
  • joined 28 Aug'12 - 16 messages
  • Utah, United States
if someone was to happen to run a cost anaylisis of the service repairs over a certain amt of time and showed it to the managers showing them how much money thier wasting from abuse and operator negligence i bet things would change

just a thought ;o)

BUT... then again, if the customer doesnt mind throwing money around then i'm sure the raymond dealer doesnt mind taking it
[chuckle]
  • Posted 29 Aug 2012 09:08
  • By Jplayer
  • joined 12 Apr'07 - 407 messages
  • North Carolina, United States
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