Yale MPB040EN24T2748:
No lift

I have a Yale MPB040-EN24T2748, serial B827N15795C. It has a Zapi FC2086a motor controller. the truck has travel, but no lift. the batteries all load test good. there are no codes. the battery indicator lights are flashing and when lift is requested the truck beeps 3 times. I hooked the handset up to the truck and checked everything I could. the motor controller is seeing all the switches. the battery voltage is the same as my volt meter at the battery connector.

Any ideas?
  • Posted 10 May 2014 03:19
  • Discussion started by Madfish
  • Missouri, United States
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I sure appreciate the ideas, after digging in to the fuse connections it appears the main DC fuse was damaged. Tested good across it and the bar in the sight glass appears fine, but the end had snapped off inside the laminated part. WTH? I'm ordering a new one today. We're getting the batteries tested to make sure they don't need to be replaced. If Y'all don't hear from me in a few days, it will mean we've resolved the problem
Thanks for the help!!
  • Posted 7 Mar 2018 23:06
  • Reply by DannO
  • Wisconsin, United States
yes i agree with brewski
24v reading means they are not charged, might be why the battery lights are flashing.
The manual says to check the AC main power supply, which we know is working because it turns on, also says to check the DC fuse may be blown, and lastly it says the power circuit break down.

It does have a protection mode that if the DC fuse blows it will cause the red led to blink so check that fuse and it's connections.
when you start the charger it should try and charge for 5 mins, if the DC circuit is faulty (ie: blown fuse) it will start blinking.
  • Posted 7 Mar 2018 13:27
  • Reply by swoop223
  • North Carolina, United States
You've been swooped!
If you are only seeing 24 volts your batteries are fully discharged. You should have above 25.6 volts to reset the BDI to full.
  • Posted 7 Mar 2018 08:55
  • Reply by BREWSKI
  • Nebraska, United States
Busy day with other projects as well. Thanks for the updates. I was able to change mode with the horn, key method. I made sure the batteries are charged and in good condition. I get a 24 volt reading from battery connector at both points. Key switch circuit seems good and I cleaned the contacts at the connector. Not sure why I get the 3 beeps. Is there another point that may need attention?
  • Posted 7 Mar 2018 08:33
  • Reply by DannO
  • Wisconsin, United States
3 beeps on lift means low battery
  • Posted 7 Mar 2018 07:09
  • Reply by stam
  • Ontario, Canada
Well yes, it's traction since the lift is not variable.
I was going on the 3 beeps from the horn he spoke of.
He did mention the battery lights flashing though so Maybe he should check the charger. I do know from past dealings with these that the charger can affect the lift function too. He should check it and the sensor wires also.
  • Posted 7 Mar 2018 04:27
  • Modified 7 Mar 2018 04:30 by poster
  • Reply by swoop223
  • North Carolina, United States
You've been swooped!
Doesn't that only alter traction settings?
He has lift problems.
  • Posted 7 Mar 2018 04:09
  • Reply by stam
  • Ontario, Canada
before you try to replace the controller you may want to verify the performance mode setting.
If you are familiar with how to change performance modes try to do this first when you start up the machine. Change it to a different mode.
Generally when you are changing modes the horn will sound off telling you what performance mode it is in 1 beep is mode 1, 2 beeps is mode 2, and 3 beeps is mode 3.

If you need assistance on how to do this proceedure here it is:
step 1- control handle in upright position
step2 - press horn button while turning on the keyswitch, release the horn button when the horn sounds.
step 3- toggle through the mode selection using the lift or lower buttons, the horn provides an audible indication as to what mode it is in as i mentioned above.
step 4- lower the handle to the operating position, the mode will stay until it is changed.
DO not turn off the key before lowering the handle, doing this will cancel the mode change.

try this and let us know what happens.
  • Posted 7 Mar 2018 02:15
  • Reply by swoop223
  • North Carolina, United States
You've been swooped!
If you are sure the batteries are full charged and the problem still occurs you will need to replace the main controller.
  • Posted 6 Mar 2018 08:03
  • Reply by BREWSKI
  • Nebraska, United States
Mrbob, I see you didn't get a response to your question last month. Did you get your problem resolved? I'm having the same problem with the zapi LED flashing and no lift, also my horn beeps 3 times when I depress the lift button. Everything seems good....
  • Posted 6 Mar 2018 04:14
  • Reply by DannO
  • Wisconsin, United States
Daniel Howe
I have the same problem but the led on the zapi is flashing. Did you get yours working?
  • Posted 8 Feb 2018 05:57
  • Modified 8 Feb 2018 05:59 by poster
  • Reply by mrbob
  • Hawaii, United States
Kevin may have it right, I've seen this problem before, it's my experience that the key switch assy on this truck wear out quickly and become lose and sloppy with wear.
  • Posted 13 May 2014 06:17
  • Reply by NER045
  • North Yorkshire, United Kingdom
The battery charger comes with a red LED that will illuminate
or flash if a malfunction of the charger or battery
One of the following may be the cause in the event of
charger failure and the red LED is blinking:

- AC mains failure
- DC fuse blown
- Power circuit break down
One of the following may be the cause in the event of battery failure and the red LED is ON:
- The total security time, 14 or 15 hours, has expired.
- The security time before the battery gassing voltage,
10 hours, has expired.
- The battery voltage is lower than 2.05V per cell after
one hour of charge.

Hope this helps understand why the battery charger light is flashing.
And what kevin_k said is also a possibility :o)
  • Posted 10 May 2014 23:44
  • Modified 10 May 2014 23:46 by poster
  • Reply by swoop223
  • North Carolina, United States
You've been swooped!
i,ve seen voltage loss across the keyswitch cause this 24v in>19v out due to bad contact in the switch.Battery guage will think battery is flat so will cut-out lift.check voltages at the plug into battery guage.
  • Posted 10 May 2014 18:01
  • Reply by kevin_k
  • dumfriesshire, United Kingdom

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