Crown WAV50-118:
Lift wont raise, was working fine the day before, batteries are charged

Cant seem to figure this out. The lift was working perfectly fine the day prior.

Batteries are fully charged, the Meter shows full bars, so the BMS is correct and reset.

The cart drives around fine.

When i press the up button, i hear a clunk noise, and the indicator starts flashing the 2 bars on the left and the 4 on the right. The 2 bars on the left blink slower, the 4 blink twice as fast.

I didnt see anything in the codes for this, unless i am missing something.

Tried the platform switch, same outcome.

Thoughts?
  • Posted 20 Apr 2023 02:22
  • Modified 20 Apr 2023 02:31 by poster
  • Discussion started by infinkc
  • California, United States
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Wanted to give an update.

Purchased a new battery (man these things are expensive and not easy to find) New battery had 8mm terminals instead of 6mm ones, so had to drill out the cables a little. Battery voltage around 6.5v, total now 26.3v

Lift works as normal again!

Thanks everyone for their help!
  • Posted 2 May 2023 00:39
  • Reply by infinkc
  • California, United States
@swoop223
thanks so much, didnt even think about that. 4- 6v batteries, all in series.

I measured each pack while still in the cart. 3 measure 6.5 and 1 measures 5.3

I had a semi dead car battery laying around, so i jumpered it across the 2 on the bank. The lift went up for a sec.

Will be buying another battery now to replace the bad one. Hopefully it works for awhile.
  • Posted 27 Apr 2023 09:26
  • Modified 27 Apr 2023 09:27 by poster
  • Reply by infinkc
  • California, United States
infinkc you may have answered your own question about what is happening.
you say it drops from 24v to 23v when you press the lift button?
24v system right?
what battery pack does it have in it? 2 12v batteries? 4 6v batteries?
in either case the complete battery pack should read a lot higher than 24v IF the batteries are charged up with a fresh charge. A fully charged 24v battery pack should be reading 26v-27.5v or there abouts, the voltage drop should not exceed 1.5v drop during operation.
Yes i know the BDI is reading full but it can do that just from seeing a higher voltage right after the charge, if you plug it in right away the surface voltage can reset the BDI. Even if there are bad batteries the BDI may not react quickly and might show a higher voltage than what's really there at first, it may take time for it to level out to what the state of charge actually is.
Also if you have a bad battery cell in one of the batteries it may not pick up on that until you put a load on it.
What i would do in this case is isolate each battery and do a load test on each one to see if you have one that is bad.
From your description when you hit the lift button tells me that you have a bad battery and when you hit the lift button the problem is showing up because of low voltage, it does not have enough voltage to engergize the lift system but may have enough to drive the unit. (i'd be willing to bet the drive performance is not very good for very long). The drive uses less load because it is variable.

In short, there is something wrong with your batteries or the charger, both need to be checked more thoroughly.
  • Posted 26 Apr 2023 22:16
  • Reply by swoop223
  • North Carolina, United States
You've been swooped!
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try disconnecting the phase lead from the lift solenoid to the lift motor and see if it changes things
a bit tricky to diagnose over a forum
might be time to get a professional in
  • Posted 26 Apr 2023 15:44
  • Reply by crownie
  • Victoria, Australia
checked the fuses, they are solid.

when attempting to raise the voltage only drops to 23 from 24v.

Didnt know how to post a video of the issue, so uploaded one to YT.
The "thud" sound when i try and activate the up, kind of sounds like a solenoid trying to kick on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSKUsPKYLk0
  • Posted 26 Apr 2023 06:54
  • Reply by infinkc
  • California, United States
grab the brown barrel fuse 60A ? and pull on it, the legs often brake off
connect your multimeter on dc volts to battery plug connector
what does voltage drop to when attempting raise
  • Posted 25 Apr 2023 15:50
  • Reply by crownie
  • Victoria, Australia

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