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MY idea that If you want a good price and realiable quality you should choose Heli or Hangcha.
We had purchase some forklifts from China,you could contact gordon2601[at]yahoo.com for more information.
We are Heli forklift transmission supplier in China, please contact me if you require Heli transmission assy or components.
Guo
Ganzhou Wuhuan Machine Co., Ltd
www.gzwh-machine.com
Skype:michael03172
Purchased 2 heli pneumatic 5000# capacity forklifts from a customer about two months ago. Both these units had transmission problems. Picked them up on a good deal and tore the transmissions down to inspect and rebuild. We found both idler shafts sheared off. The shafts were a smaller diameter than I have ever seen inside of a single speed transmission. We also noticed that both the forward and reverse clutch packs were complexly worn out with only two fibers remaining in each pack. We ordered the parts, and were told 2 weeks of back order. That 2 weeks turned into 7 weeks, and to top it off when we finally received the parts, the torque converter / stator support bushing and the transmission pump support bushings were wrong. After a discussion with the parts guys at the dealer we used, we found out that heli is producing the bushings with the correct part number but with the wrong dimensions. We ended up using the lathe to machine the bushings to the appropriate diameter and literally just today finished the second unit. From my experience in dealing with both heli and tailift ( Have been a tailift dealer since 1998 ) the heli does not have the parts support of a tailift. Take it from me, you don't want to go thru this with these transmissions if you don't need to. Don't get me wrong either we have had our fair share of tailift support problems over the years, but never have we been told that the parts are wrong and the problem is yours to figure out, like heli did.
We are transmission OEM supplier to Hangcha in China, welcome to order Hangcha forklift transmission components with us.
Ganzhou Wuhuan Machine Co., Ltd.
Guo Chunming
Sales Engineer
Skype:michael03172
Larry, not sure if you sorted it out yet. I had a similar thing on a 3 ton Hangcha forklift gearbox we rebuilt. From memory there was an idler shaft (from memory it was just a shaft with a gear either end)which we put in back to front which caused the same thing as you are having happen
I looked at a new 15,000# Maximal yesterday. Cost for customer is $30,000 less than a Toyota. At first glance it is a very nice machine but closer observation show some little improvements needed. First- the wiring harness connectors need to be the sealed type other manufacturers are using. There is a light duty flip door for access to the fuel filler cap, less robust than the one on by Ford truck! The cotter pins for the hood lift shocks were rusting enough to stain the body. And last I noticed was that the radiator cover was very thick heavy steel which was great- but the chassis in front of the steer wheels appeared to be the same thickness, and we KNOW that's not gonna hold up. All in all, so much of this machine is done right it appears, maybe Maximal will consider improvements in these areas.
If the clutch pack works correctly on the bench then it sounds to me like a check ball came loose from either the case, pump or control valve.
Hi Larry, could you please send pictures of plasic seal rings and the clutch drum?
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Hi Wuhuan,
I am having transmission problems with 2 identical Heli Models #CPYD35, Serial #23035C1231 and 23035C1232. Both have GM motors and Heli Y-3 Transmissions.
We have sold 2 of these to our customer through a local dealer. It is a very rough enviroment and both units had the transmission output shafts snap at the base of the spline at aprox 3500 hours. Most likely from the same driver using transmission to stop 10kLBs within 3 months of each other. We replaced the shafts and decided to put clutch disks, plates and seals in also. We did one transmission at a time and have pressures in the right ports but have only reverse in forward, reverse in neutral and reverse in reverse. On the bench clutch packs are free, forward and reverse close respectively to the ports under light air pressure. We rebuild alot of transmissions here and have never experienced this problem before. We thought the 3 clutch pack plastic seal rings broke during install but after dismantling found them in new condition. Never saw plastic seal rings before this transmission, they are usually steel interlocking rings. We then did the second unit because we needed one of them to work right away and ended up with the dupicate scenario. We have tested the pressures and everything seems to be right. We are wondering if the 3 plastic seal rings on the clutch drum shaft might be at fault and may have been upgraded to metal or what else we could be missing. Both units have identical problem. Whatever we did or didn't do we evidently did the sameway wrong. Please help us if you can. My email is [email address removed]. Thank you in advance for your consideration.
Larry Beals, Forklift Mobile Inc.
Yes, HC and Heli are quality reliable forklift brands, also two biggest forklift makers in China.
We are OEM supplier to HC and Heli in China, 1~10 tonne transmissions for diesel/LPG forklifts, as well as electric forklifts.
Take no notice of Vinny - his opinion is obviously based on hearsay and prejudice. We have operated Hangcha since 2005 and are more than happy with the machines and HC's support. Sure they don't offer all the electronics and plastics that the Japanese and Euro machines seem to need these days but they do the basic job of up and down and back and forwards reliably and cost effectively. We take care to spec' with a drive train that's easily supported and have taken the trouble to actually accumulate knowledge in regard to servicing needs and repair work. After many years of running Nissans it was a big step to take on HC but we have never regretted doing so. I would recommend that you stick with one of the big manufacturers like HC because they understand the need for "export build quality" and have huge R&D departments working on product development.
What information do you need with Chinese EP, Maximal or Zowell? We are OEM supplier to these brands in China, gearbox and axle supplier. I would like to give technical support for these components.
Guo
Ganzhou Wuhuan Machine Co., Ltd.
Email:[email address removed]
Skype:michael03172
www.gzwh-machine.com
Mobile:0086-13970767187
Thanks for the information vinny!!
Chinese machines aren“t said to put up with heavy use... Anyway, if you have more information, please tell me.
Why Taiwan products?
You may get the company security guard when you call, and make sure you have an English speaking contact, light application use machines rather than heavy use or it will cost YOU money, beware.
I would recommend Taiwan products ie Tailift rather than Chinese.
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