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BT c3e150 left encoder lock error

Serial ce310743
Hi we have this BT with the 2 zapi ace2 controllers for traction throwing up error D1 I think with the zapi handset plugged in it says left encoder lock.

Customer has replaced left motor encoder twice to be sure. They have also replaced both traction units off another truck.

They have checked wiring from encoder back to both traction units and no break or earth in the wires.

They have also changed the logic card that sits under the floor plate towards the left side of e truck.
Now we are confused so if anyone could give us some pointers that would be really appreciated.

Regards
  • Posted 16 May 2017 18:50
  • Modified 16 May 2017 18:51 by poster
  • By elektrodrive
  • joined 2 May'08 - 747 messages
  • West Midlands, United Kingdom
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Hi...I think that the interrupts used for the MEGA code might be "busy" on the Leonardo because the same code doesn't work.
On the MEGA I was using interrupts #2-5 to read the encoders on ports 18-21. On the Leonardo I'm using ports A2-A5 but the interrupts don't work (maybe they're taken by the bluetooth module or the motor shield?).

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  • Posted 30 Apr 2020 03:52
  • Modified 23 May 2020 04:51 by poster
  • By Roch_Levoff
  • joined 30 Apr'20 - 1 message
  • Virginia, United States
Are you sure you have D1?

D1 : TRAC KO
This alarm signals that the (M11) Master traction logic unit is not comunicating.
Check:
- The supplying: 48V must be present in the connector JT1 pin A1 cable M
- The can-bus connections
If the supplying is ok, but it do not permits the truck working, replace the Master traction logic unit.

1D : left encoder lock

Interrupted or disconnected left motor encoder.
The alarm appears after 10 seconds approximately with the accelerator pedal pressed.
The machine works at reduced speed and at maximum current.
Encoder basic electric diagram.
In picture it is shown only a signal (A).
The encoders generate two same signals, but out
of phase of 90°(A-B).
1. Connect the positive tip of the tester (red) to
the positive one of the encoder.
2. Connect the COM tip of the tester (black) to
the encoder signal (A).
In base of the motor position, it will show the
following values:
* low signal: 0,5 - 1,5 Volt
* hight signal: 10,5 - 11,5 Volt
It is not possible to read intermediate values with
the motor stopped.
If the motor is working, the multemeter will
automatically read the Mv (medium value)
Mv= 5,5 - 6,5 Volt
Carrying out this test directly on the logic
connectors it is possible to determine if the
signals are good (see upper description) or if the
channels are opened or in shour circuit. If the
signals are good, the problem could be on the
electronic control
  • Posted 24 May 2017 04:20
  • By frits_f
  • joined 19 Dec'09 - 320 messages
  • utrechte, Netherlands
Hi dear, please do the acquisition in Learning mode. i think acquisition required.
  • Posted 22 May 2017 17:54
  • By Syed
  • joined 14 May'15 - 196 messages
  • Sindh, Pakistan
swasiquehussain at gmail dot com
Read on this post. After reading the whole post, we can get solutions to deal with the trouble quickly and safely. Thanks for your nice sharing.
  • Posted 22 May 2017 12:40
  • By aloce_j
  • joined 22 May'17 - 8 messages
  • Louisiana, United States
Yes controller is in back of the truck. 2 zapi units and underneath these 2 is the hydraulic unit.

Encoder voltages for one output ia correct whereas the second output is not in accordance with the given values in the service manual.

The engineer hardwired the 3 motor cables and the light encoder wires off to a truck next to it and ran this motor and encoder without any faults.

So we know its not the motor or encoder, its not any of the traction controllers.

Must be a wiring or perhaps there's another pcb it might go through?
  • Posted 18 May 2017 22:17
  • Modified 18 May 2017 22:19 by poster
  • By elektrodrive
  • joined 2 May'08 - 747 messages
  • West Midlands, United Kingdom
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Can you please look and give me this info about truck.
Year on plate, batery voltage.
If truck is C3E150 it must be three wheel and motor traction is back in counterweight.
  • Posted 18 May 2017 01:43
  • By nemanja_k
  • joined 15 Apr'11 - 398 messages
  • serbia, Serbia
Good morning, have you checked the encoder plug connector connected to the inverter with the correct signals when the machine is on?
  • Posted 17 May 2017 15:29
  • By mirko_c
  • joined 16 Jan'14 - 166 messages
  • Reggio Emilia, Italy

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