to dantheman.......spoken like a true salesman, right off a brochure.
Toyota does one thing better than anyone else....they make an IC truck that cant be beat. Thats it.
Back to the original post, as far as the electric's go, stick with the proven majors and look for the service behind the truck. You want a jack that won't break in the middle after a couple of years, one that your cost per hour doesn't eat away your GP.

get the new toyota 8HBW23 AC tech cost around 5G

AC drive system offers fast response to operating commands, precise power control, compact components and provides high productivity throughout the entire shift.

AC drive motor offers excellent acceleration and top travel speed, loaded or unloaded, while improving battery efficiency through regenerative braking.

Multifunction control handle is designed for multi-tasking operations while either walking or riding.

Regenerative braking improves overall efficiency and prolongs brake component life.

Programmable performance parameters may be customized through the digital display to meet a wide range of job applications and operator skill levels.

Lift limit switch stops the hydraulic motor at maximum lift height to reduce unnecessary strain on the lift components and preserve battery life.

Hydraulic overload protection valve prevents operators exceeding the unit's rated load handling capacity.

Dual lift cylinders provide efficient hydraulic power for smooth, effortless, lifting to reduce component wear.
Multifunction Control Handle has ergonomically positioned dual thumb wheels with twist grips, lift, lower and horn buttons for simplified operation of all controls with either hand.

Low-platform step height eases frequent entry and exit during floor level order-picking for reduced body fatigue.

Rubber drive tire and polyurethane load wheels provide a smoother ride and longer tire life.


Serviceability

AC drive motors have no springs, brushes, commutator or wearable parts thus reducing planned maintenance.

One piece, lightweight service access cover conveniently snaps on and off for easy access to major components reducing service time during inspection.

Steel reinforced control handle is impact-resistant and easy to service by simply removing four screw.

On-board self-diagnostics with built in analyzer simplifies troubleshooting and eliminates the need for an external hand-held analyzer.

AC drive system eliminates the need for the directional contactors thus reducing routine maintenance and inspection time.

Drive tire replacement is simplified by removing only five bolts to maximize uptime and productivity.

Lets get back on track to the original question! From personal experience I would stay away from the Raymond 102xm, they are overly sensitive to battery voltage (minor drop in voltage truck thinks it's dead) the gel cell battery packs ***! The trucks are built by BT so the wiring tends to fail rapidly (I've replaced wiring harnesses in trucks less than six months old) they also tend to go thru lift solenoids. I would narrow the choices to the Yale or a Crown. If you do like Raymond go to the next larger jack, the 8000 series are much better jacks.

The 85% quoted is, 85% vertical integration. 85% of a Crown is designed by, manufactured by, and built by Crown employees. They manufacture their own motors, drive units, cylinders etc..
As far as propaganda goes, everybody does it. All the majors buy each others trucks and tear them apart to see what makes them tick and how to break them. Every large player I know of has pamphlets describing how much better they are than the competition.

Not quite, traded my serice-van for a nice cushy shop.

I heard you traded your tools in for a broom and dust pan...LOL :) (not at a dealer anymore) Get it...

Wow, go away for a week and look what happens...

When I had used the word 'propaganda', I was directly refering to the Crown pamphlets sitting on Gordo's desk that compare the Crowns to the other brands, carefully pointing out what Crown perceives as the shortcomings of all other maunfacturers products compared to theirs.
The pamphlets, ironically, seem to miss any and all areas where Crown may come up short.

Thus;
Pamphlets = Propaganda.

What exactly Gordo's comment about me not having a country means, I guess it's a mystery... maybe more propaganda? :-)

Too funny, I love it.

Rocky, Thanks for letting me know where it came from.
I am not a "fan" of any particular brand of pallet jack, (or any other product) but I am a believer in "putting you money where your mouth is" and a "true believer" of also being careful not to "cast ye pearls before swine", and knowing that "the devil is in the details". I believe in trying to keep an open mind about what is the -best- tool for the job, no matter what name is on the tool.

I only wanted to find the fine points (the questions not being answered) in the advertising (A.K.A. propaganda) you are sharing with us.
Since I now know where you got the quote, it is now possible to put it in context.
I also miss understanding just how you feel that design and manufacture of 85% is a selling point that should explain and justify added expense to the end user? and I still don't know if that 85% is 85% of all part numbers, 85% weight of the truck, 85% of the time (man hours) used in design and manufacture, or just how the 85% is calculated.
and in General, the way I view my work and this industry, I work for customers, (end users) not a brand name.

Edward t
The quote came directly from Crown's website. You are obviously not a Crown fan and I'm not trying to convert you, my guess is you probably work for one of their competitors. I was merely trying to highlight out the good points about purchasing Crown.

Can anyone say ****.
You need to get out more Eddie.

Rockyb1-
Apparently, I need to clarify my questions in relation to your quote.
Can you point us to where that quote is from? (give an attribute?) or is it a statistic you came up with for the moment?
Can you give us more accurate and less general statistics and explain how you arrived at those numbers?
I am wondering just who is included with the "Crown Designs and manufacturers". is that all (85%) work done by people who have the word Crown on their pay checks? does it include all the transport workers who move the goods? does that include the Crown's China operations? does it include the parts manufactured by others (contactors and tips?) as each component counted as 1 part or does it include each subcontractor's part as 1 assembly and so less % of parts not designed by crown? (% or PN in Crowns Parts catolog?)
And does that include everything ever made by Crown or is it on some particular day or some start time? inquiring minds would like to know!

edward t -
Apparently I need to clairfy my statement a little more for you.....
"Crown designs and manufactures 85 percent of its lift truck components, including key parts like motors, drive units, and electronic modules. " I was merely trying to point out that a Crown unit may cost more but you get what you are pay for. By using vertical integration Crown can modify schedules to enable machining a single part if necessary.

No ones trying to play down any one piece of equipment but I think you should look at the original post. Engineering wasn't the question, it was brand,model and apples to apples.

Cheers.

You are right on teh $$ edward t. Engineering at its best is a compromise. They (engineers) use the + & - chart, always and forever.