Alabama,
Who trained you to become a trainer at your previous employer, is my first question?
Dan
There is nothing in the CSA guidelines regarding the refresher training for trainers. The 3 years is for operators only. CSA B335-4, 6.21.1 Chapter 7 refers to trainers and there is not a word regarding refresher training.
****, there are trainers out there who should not even be training in the first place, but I won't name any in case they are reading this thread.
etharp, I get what your saying and understand the risk involved with drivers tng but all this doesn't answer my initial post. My original question was, does my train the trainer certification that i recieved from my previous employer in 2005 allow me to certify new customers with my present employer. If not, where do I get the certification to train my new customers and my employees.
It's 3 years between refreshers for Oper trainers in Canada. That's CSA. I'm on my 3rd round of refresher training now.
Etharp, I dont know you but it sounds like you have had first hand experience with this problem. Nothing would get done if I took that kind of advice. Its no difference if a mechanic faild to adjust the brakes and the operator drives off a dock. There is liability in everything we do, so I can trust myself in following the guidelines set by Osha to train operators. If ther are operators that are questionable and should not be certified then they dont get the liscense. I have not heard of a case where there have been an accident and the trainer was at fault and if there was I am sure the trainer made poor descisions during class time. If your doing the right thing you shouldnt be worried about a jury.
Lol!!!! Why can't we have emoticons?
I was trained to be a trainer waith a material handling company when I was a customer service rep back in 2005. Since then I have left and work for an independent aerial lift equipment rental company. I was hired to start a forklift service division for them and I was wondering if I can use my certification as a trainer from my former employer to train my customers now. I was certified as a trainer in 2005. If not how do I go about getting trained as a trainer so I can certify my customers as well as my fellow employees. Any advice will be appreciated.
Thanks!
Tony_g:
The U.S. OSHA requlrements for forklift operator trainers are very general and do not include refresher intervals.
OSHA 1910.178(l)(2)(iii): "All operator training and evaluation shall be conducted by persons who have the knowledge, training, and experience to train powered industrial truck operators and evaluate their competence."
tony_g:
In the United States, "forklift certification" should mean that the employer of the forklift operator has certified that the forklift operator has been properly trained according to OSHA 1910.178(l) - Operator Training, and the forklift operator's operational skill and knowledge have been evaluated and have been deemed adequate for the forklift operator to safely operate the forklift(s) which s/he will use.
Certification must comply with OSHA 1910.178(l)(5) - Certfication: "The employer shall certify that each operator has been trained and evaluated as required by this paragraph (l). The certification shall include the name of the operator, the date of the training, the date of the evaluation, and the identity of the person(s) performing the training or evaluation."
Unfortunately, "forklift certification" is a phrase coined by vendors to attempt to market forklift training services or forklift training products. Many vendors advertise they can provide OSHA forklift certification. This is a false claim as only the employer can make the certification.
Employers should be leery of such claims and are advised to compare the products and services of such vendors against the OSHA requirements to ensure they are not wasting their time and money.
OSHA holds the employer of the forklift operator responsible for regulatory compliance and not the vendor.
I do not believe that there is a specified expiration date for in-house trainers, although there should be. Many of these so-called in-house trainers do not train on a regular basis, and tend to forget alot of what they learnt from the trainer when they took the course. Then you get the bad, training the weak, and that does not instill much confidence, in me, anyhow.
So, at least north of your border, there is no expiration on their training, but updates wouldn't be a bad idea.
Forklift certification can mean a couple of things. 1, a pre-shift inspection done by the operator. 2, An annual check-up sort of speak which is mandatory whereby the tech does a complete once over, and repairs any faults before placing a sticker , usually on the mast, that is signed off, has a req. #, and the date that the truck was inspected, and therefore, 'certified'.
Hope this answers your questions, rather briefly.
Dan