Discussion:
the End of Materials Handling as it is known today

The Materials Handling market is about to change. With only around six or seven of the world's manufactures serving. With in the next 10 years most warehouse will be completely different Companies like KION of China DAMATIC or TOYOTA of Japan VANDERLANDE will dominate the warehouse business with hole turnkey products. Pallet trucks, reach trucks VNA truck will all be replaced with automated equipment.

Counter balance forklift sales will also decline and be replaced with complete handling systems that will be able to move products around a facility with out the need of an operator. Out side the facility there will also be big changes Both Diesel and electric forklifts will be replaced with 100% zero emission products that will have much longer ranges then electric forklifts and will be able to handle loads up to 72,000kg while being 100% zero emission. Companies Like Hyster who have backed Hydrogen to the tune of up to $260 million investment will see this disappear as hydrogen forklifts wont be able to compete with the new technologies that will offer lower cost's ,no need for high pressure systems ,be less explosive and more cost effective than hydrogen.
  • Posted 22 Feb 2020 07:11
  • Discussion started by Exalteze
  • Halifax, United Kingdom
Exalt leading the way to a zero emission future
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To answer Swoop223 question. Now at the beginning there will be some fossil fuel involvement because of how Ammonia need's to be transported from the main filling point to the customer. in fact, in the United Stated there are already 2000 miles of ammonia pipelines along with a substantial infrastructure for ammonia manufacture and distribution.

Ammonia is regularly used in refrigeration and heat pumps so its highly likely people are passing near safely stored ammonia regularly in their everyday lives at sites such as hospitals, supermarkets amongst many others

A study by the Royal Society highlight substantial savings using Ammonia in Rail, Shipping and Heavy Road Transport... in fact nearly 80% reduction to that of Hydrogen gas and a third of the costs of liquefied Hydrogen.


Ammonia could absolutely be zero carbon. you can make green Hydrogen (either with green electricity or carbon capture & storage) and green electricity you can make green ammonia. You just need a lot of green energy!

The truck itself is zero emission but the process of getting the fuel to the customer might have some emissions attached, this could also be added to battery power as the electric use could come from fossil fuel powerplants. As technologies progress then the process will use less fossil fuels and in some cases like ports that have a green ammonia plant near by for produce liquid ammonia for ships and the ammonia is piped into the port. It would be 100% completely zero emission.

As the truck is completely modular it adds benefits to companies that rent forklifts instead of purchasing them. More and More companies will rent rather than purchase, If anything what is happening at the moment will show companies that rental is better than purchase, If a company has rented a forklift with an open return option they can off hire the truck to re hire it when its needed. If a company has Purchased a truck or leases a truck they still have to pay for the truck even though them might not even be working. As the modular can easily be exchanged in case of a fault arising or for servicing or exchanged to extend the trucks life the TCO will be much lower that that of a Diesel truck.
  • Posted 10 Apr 2020 20:37
  • Modified 10 Apr 2020 20:41 by poster
  • Reply by Exalteze
  • Halifax, United Kingdom
Exalt leading the way to a zero emission future
yeah wondering who he got to approve the darn thing, knowing what standards it has to meet doesn't answer the question.
but i wonder about that since he said it "will be" meaning it isn't there yet or he's just using bad interpretations of language , grammar.
If the truck was built and running he would have said "it meets" those standards.
I have a feeling by the time he actually get this thing on the market the standards will change again and push back his release once again.
AND on another note, since the global community is on the zero carbon bandwagon and pushing to eliminate fossil fuels all together how is this truck going to even be a viable product? Based on that path nobody would want to get into building anything fossil fuel driven and concentrate strictly on power sources that are NOT fossil fuel based.
Not sure if that's even possible in any form to run a forklift in any suitable fashion that's cost effective. At ANY stage of any power source development there is going to be fossil fuel involvement at some point. So in actuality he can't truthfully say it's "zero emission" because that would be a lie. But then again this is all just a play on words and terms to support a global narrative to reduce carbon emissions because global business community wants to come up with new tech. to generate more avenues to make more money.
Not the first time the earth its ecology and our involvement in it has been used to do that.
  • Posted 10 Apr 2020 05:18
  • Reply by swoop223
  • North Carolina, United States
You've been swooped!
swoop223@gmail.com
I didn't ask what standards you are using. I asked which governing body you used to certify you met those standards, particularly the emission ones.
  • Posted 10 Apr 2020 01:21
  • Reply by ChrisK
  • Kansas, United States
The trucks will be DIN/BITA/FEM/ISO standardeds
  • Posted 10 Apr 2020 00:54
  • Reply by Exalteze
  • Halifax, United Kingdom
Exalt leading the way to a zero emission future
What governing body did you use to certify your truck as 100% zero emissions?
  • Posted 9 Apr 2020 22:16
  • Reply by ChrisK
  • Kansas, United States
i bet he's having visions like James T Kirk did in star trek voyage home when they went back in time to save the earth :oD
  • Posted 8 Apr 2020 07:02
  • Reply by swoop223
  • North Carolina, United States
You've been swooped!
swoop223@gmail.com
Dazzlin dave: We will also forget about you in all due time, Seeing any colors yet?
  • Posted 8 Apr 2020 02:25
  • Reply by triumphrider
  • Texas, United States
The truck will be released in the fourth quarter and people will be able to see it, As for Hyster going bust i don't think they will be on their own, i believe the forklift OEM's will consolidate and their will be around four top OEM's plus Heli and Hangch from China. A lot of OEM's will go or be taken over by the main three big companies Toyota, KION and Mitubishi Logisnext. The other big group will be Crown with Dossan and Hyundai. In big truck over 10,000kg there will be only Kalmar, Kone and Sany
  • Posted 7 Apr 2020 22:30
  • Modified 7 Apr 2020 22:40 by poster
  • Reply by Exalteze
  • Halifax, United Kingdom
Exalt leading the way to a zero emission future
When the 4th quarter comes out, we will all be told the truck is released. When asked to see the proof, we will get the same old "the people who need to see it already have" (a claim he has made in the past) There will be no proof other that Exalt's word, because he will be keeping it under double secret lock down to keep the Chinese from stealing his super great idea (a claim he has made in the past). There will be of course claims that the super truck is cleaning up the air everywhere that is has been sold with it's super zero emissions (again, another claim from the past). Not the mention the obvious repetitive claim that Hyster will be going out of business (the claim he continually makes hoping to someday be right). Come the 4th quarter, we will just get more lies. They may change slightly, but they will still be lies (the only thing true in this whole tale).
  • Posted 7 Apr 2020 21:59
  • Reply by ChrisK
  • Kansas, United States
Well to say you claim to have forgotten more than we have ever known, Your Alzheimer's must be kicking in
  • Posted 7 Apr 2020 20:30
  • Reply by Exalteze
  • Halifax, United Kingdom
Exalt leading the way to a zero emission future
Triumprider I have to say your last post is the best one yet.
  • Posted 7 Apr 2020 20:16
  • Reply by Partsguy5
  • California, United States
Dazzlin Dave,Have you ever thought about putting down the crack pipe and maybe dropping a couple of hits of really good acid instead?
  • Posted 7 Apr 2020 19:59
  • Reply by triumphrider
  • Texas, United States
You wrote this before covid19. Think again. After the dust settles, people might be back to stone age, hand-bombing products. Oh yeah, the only thing you got right was 'it's going to change"
  • Posted 6 Apr 2020 00:11
  • Reply by EasiTek
  • Ontario, Canada
Dave until you truck exists you cannot do anything pal. How many years have we been hearing of this wonder-truck?? How many times have you said when it will be unveiled??? Quite a few pal and until it is you've got nothing.
  • Posted 5 Apr 2020 05:45
  • Reply by lifter01
  • West Yorkshire, United Kingdom
We are the only company that can do all this at Zero emission, there a couple of other manufactures i know off plus some Chinese manufactures that can do 16,000kg at 1,200 LC at Zero Emission, But they can't mach us on productivity, efficiency and range
  • Posted 4 Apr 2020 05:08
  • Reply by Exalteze
  • Halifax, United Kingdom
Exalt leading the way to a zero emission future

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