Hyster Yale buying Maximal makes no real sense they already have a deal with HC forklifts for the Utilev trucks so unless they have got out of this deal HC will still produce for the Utilev brand.
Maximal only produce around 6,000 units per year with a capacity of 30,000 and paying 90 mill dollars for just 75% equity is not really a good deal. Maximal are looking to get into the port equipment market but only supply and very small number of these trucks to the local market, and with the likes of Sany and Heli already dominating the local Chines market were will the new Hyster Yale maximal truck fit. One area might be the new Hyster Yale maximal company might look to supply another manufacture under a badge agreement to enter the local market
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Exhalt, have you ever heard of a product called EXLAX available here in the U.S. ? Not only is it available in regular or extra strength, it would probably get the right output from the right end of your body, maybe a name change to the same is in order.
You are still full of it.
The only thing that has been proven on here is that everything i have said has been proven write.
Hyster yale will make massive losses over the next number of years
and heres why
1 Big forklift 12.6 % of sales are big trucks Big trucks are made in Nijmegen in Holland but sell mostly in North America. with Donald trump planning tariffs on this type of equipment and Hoist and Toyota now entering the North American market together this will cause Hyster a large problem
2 Hydrogen fuel cell, hyster has a very large black hole in their hydrogen fuel cell business a $35 Million lose in EBITDA IN 2018 ALONE , companies like Plug power and Ballard are way more advanced than hyster in this area and their systems can drop into any electric forklift. Also Hydrogen will be surpassed as a fuel with in two years as there to many problems with it.
3 maximal is a $110 million black hole just waiting, the Chinese government who control all Chinese forklift manufactures will not let an americain company get a good foot hold in this market, what Maximal will do how ever is take hyster technology and share it with other Chinese manufactures. Also Hangcha will approach all the Hyster dealers sell their Utilev truck and offer them the same truck at a lower price meaning hyster will have direct competition with in their own dealer network. Sany and ZPMC are already looking like they are working together on container handling equipment so maximal will be no were, they produce around 6,000 small forklift up to 4,000kg a year so this was a nice payday for the maximal management and with another $10 million due
4 the hyster big electric truck won't happen , there is not the battery technology today to give a good enough range on its own and if they try to go fuel cell it would need over 50kg of fuel a day and at at least $.6.50 per kg it will just be two expensive, then it will be at least 60% more expensive than a normal big truck
Now you can pretend all this won't happen and put on here from your yale management point of view and even say this is not even true and its me being full of it.
But we both know it is true don't we
Im from Mars as far as your concerned , besides you have proven to everybody you are full of it.
what Bait you asked the question i offered the answer its quite straight forward
hears is what you said As far as yale /hyster is concerned nobody on these forums know as much as the yale /hyster corporations management teams. I take it your from Yale because every body i know call the company Hyster Yale , you how ever call it Yale hyster
Hyster is now set to lose quite a bit of money over the next number of years and the maximal deal is one that will seal their fate to be taken over
No , what it means is I am not taking the bait.
I cant post it because its in part of a file, triumphrider made an assumption about what i said and questioned. if what i said was actually true. so i have given him the opportunity to email me and i would send him the info its that simple he can then make up his own mind. The fact he hasn't emailed to me says he knows what im talking about and knows the info im on about.
Why don't you post it here so we can all see?
why don't you just email is stead of making assumptions. You would be surprised what you see.
You make these assumptions i offer to email you proof of what i have said and you carry on making assumptions
Wouldn't surprise me if they don't already have a large stake in your company. They info you already have is probably BS any way
Like i said if you emaill me i will send you some info and then you can judge for your self how do you know that we aren't already talking to Chinese investors about our proposal
So, when is this machine going to be available for sale , service, etc. You keep jumping around on these forums like you are trying to dodge us. As far as yale /hyster is concerned nobody on these forums know as much as the yale /hyster corporations management teams. So what if they go Chinese/ how do you not know that the Chinese might one day decide to buy your company. No matter where you are at in todays world MONEY TALKS B/S walks
triumphrider could you email me at etaligroupAtgmail.com there is some info i will share with you. that explains how we have come to our conclusion on Hyster
If you dont like the fact that Hyster is going to be Chinese with in three to four years you had better get used to it because it is.
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