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My -opinion- of [virtually _all_] "impact and access monitoring systems" (other than on doors to the building) will not please "Game Changer", as they are as much a waste of time and effort as rubbing 'snake oil' on your feet to prevent getting a snake bite.
You can try all you want, but you can not fix stupid, and stupid is all these systems are trying to fix. The ignorance part can be educated away, and without the education of the operator, or elimination of the operator, all the 'access control and impact monitoring systems' in the world will only create a revolving door for new hires, which will give the folks in HR something to justify their existence.
IF you have properly trained, supervised and motivated employees, with clear expectations of their responsibilities, we/you don't need what they purport to offer. [period dot]
If you do NOT have properly trained, supervised and motivated employees, all the 'controls' in the world will not get the work done any faster, or with less 'loss'.
I don't argue with my customer's that want these devices, and have installed a number of them, and have removed far more from machines that had 'unknown problems' caused by either the devices, or the poor installation of those devices, usually in machines that were sold as 'wholesale' because it was not cost effective if someone had to quote the diagnostics and repair of the "W.I.F.s" caused by these devices. The ones with excellent TECH support (not sales support) are the only ones I would offer to any customer that thinks they want these types of devices, and asks my opinion of which ones would be best.
My advice to anyone who asked my opinion about these systems, [in confidence] was that they would be far better off spending their money with a -good- (not 'the least expensive') operator training program.
I am pretty sure the statistics agree with my points, and if they really did save money or injury or any other type of loss, or were a valuable concept statistically, they would already be included in every machine made, as the manufacturers have a legal and moral requirement (at least in the USA) to provide a machine as safe as possible.
When the US Military (who has more manpower, money, time and computer power, than anyone else I know of, to study these things) decides to require them on their forklifts, I will gladly change my tune.
I truly wish you good luck in your sales efforts. I make pretty good money to remove them, and put the machine back into the condition it was before someone else tried to do 'an aftermarket install'.
  • Posted 5 Jan 2014 03:19
  • Modified 5 Jan 2014 05:26 by poster
  • By edward_t
  • joined 5 Mar'08 - 2,334 messages
  • South Carolina, United States
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