I can't mention anyone directly in this post, but i can confirm that i have been involved with a a large German manufacturer of fork trucks and as a large customer and we have our own engineers who have full engineer access to this particular companies software, the company i work for have over 3500 mhe, so this might have been the deciding factor to keep us on side and we have an excellent relationship with this manufacturer and i personally had to sign an agreement strictly detailing that i was not to give this information to anyone outside the company, so it is possible, but you have to be buying some serious units and that is all i can say on that matter for obvious reasons.