I agree KION have had to sell out to the Chinese who will survive will be telling., I can see the Japanese joining forces and Junghienrich going with Mits Cat. NACCO would survive if the go to Sammons and that will just leave CROWN who will concentrate on the USA and survive there. But for the rest its anybodies guess. Especially in the larger truck end Heli and Sany to enter this market this year with quite good trucks plus we will definitely be in the market before the end of the year so the market is going to get more competitive. How will the likes of Kalmar Linde KONE all of a sudden drop their prices will be interesting. These have all-way's claimed they are a premium product but now customers want a more price competitive product not a premium product.