notorious- you are absolutely correct. We could never charge 8 hrs for a 4 hr job on the road. Besides- think of all the little problems encountered on the road that chew up time- these would all be on us.

I have read on this site that newer contracts seem to be written in a fashion similar to flat rate- no thank you. The only winners are the customer & dealer- we get screwed.

I know some flat rate techs in the auto industry- there's alot of backstabbing, "rebates" tech's give service writers to get certain jobs & when work gets slow- no pay. Not everything it's cracked up to be.