SAM 100 i don't work either at KION or Linde but my business means i do know what is going on in the heavy forklift market. As for looking at taking over Merthyr i don't think Linde will let it go to a competitor but we would make it work as we know a product that's in our planed new range that would fit there and turn Merthyr round. But for this to happen we will just have to wait and see what Linde has planed my forcast id Kone cranes will take over container handling and Linde will move production of the 10,000kg - 16,000 kg to Germany and China , Trucks over 16,000kg will come from Kone Cranes like before