Jplayer, thanks! And no joking, I do wish I could send them a bill, but the satisfaction of solving a problem they created themselves..........and then dead lined the truck for 5 MONTHS while they scratched various body parts..........stumped so badly they finally gave up and sent the truck to us...............as has been said elsewhere, absolutely priceless.

Now on this other issue of learning the ropes of this forum.
I have visited the forum for a few years periodically and finally decided to join up. I'm just gonna have to do my home work on the navigation techniques used here.