I'm an independent also and have been plugging along ok. The dealers seem nice to me and help me out when I ask for information. I have never tried to steal their customers and do spend money with them. The reason I have customers is because of the BIG problems they had with dealers. I have done the PM work on some new trucks still under warranty and they never said anything about that if they had to come in for a warranty issue. But, if it comes down to needing a lap top and software to fix something, then I will just call them and have them come in.