MisLiftloader,

1. I learned a lot from JD Mills and totally respected his comments. In summary - what he said to me make certain what you say to him or any one is exactly what you are will to put down on paper and when it is on paper, he and I do look for the hidden peas (a.k.a. shell game) in agreemetns, contract etc.

By the way JD & I became friends adn I sold his company lift trucks..

2. With regard to your comments on my statement. "........ but be sincere." being sales and marketing for over 4 decades I will admit I have touched on these virtues at times by not tell the whole truth. Like saying this used unit I'm proposing was on 5-year lease w/full maintenance - but neglected to offer to say it was in a "pickle foundry." When a customer would beat me down on the price of equipment - then tell me he wanted to finance it on a (finance to won" payment program. I would inflate the monthly payment by a few dollars and get my original sales price back. See both of these are a whole like the "lie a little and cheat a little" I'm not talking about doing a Bernie Madolf (SIC) program.
It is common for dealers to replace the hourmeter on used trucks to were it reads 00000.0 and say by doing so it is easier to keep track of usage in the customers application. How difficult is it to subtract two numbers (hour meter reading at time of delivery from some time in the future)?
And if one would asked for a show of hands by other folks in sales that have done something similar and to answer honestly (face down on desk and raise hand program) I bet you would see a lot of hands raised.

Have A Nice Day!