I only bash crown technology and the benefits/pay. Hitting top pay after 10-15 years is a little to slow for me. I can honestly say with the exception of gene hoffman, the people i meet at crown we some of the most genuine I have met to date. They we usually always willing to answer questions and explain things without trying to make you feel inferior. Associated/ Raymond was the exact opposite. With the exception of a few people, everyone their is out to stab each other in the back, and generally try to use whatever they can to some how advance past you. Since their is no trackers on the vans, its a start as late as your can and leave as early as you can, bill as much as you can company. The lead I was under would normally bill 14hrs for the company in a 8hr day, put 12 for his time card and leave after around 7-8. This would just totally **** me off, especially as he would purposely hold work or maintenances for himself when the guys in his territory were low on work to make sure he billed enough overtime to get his 80k a year.