I dont see how a company with such a big turnover can have such a big loss, but this seems the norm with all of the so called big players, but as you say this cant go on forever in the current climate, this all stems from bad management and constanly doing silly deals combined with big RV's on hire deals!! You can see the writing is on the wall when a company have their own auction site to sell trucks!!, is it barlow-bay!! I can see it being BarloworldRIP!!