in an open forum I could not be more specific, ,, sorry..
I do not have permission from anyone involved to name, and I do not have a "dog in that fight". maybe you know a "middle manager" that has left Carolina Handling and went to work for some of the competition in the last couple of years, and now maybe that person now has some of the other office (and maybe some techs) people working for them...

you should be able to guess that I don't know anyone who "fits that bill", and * if there was such a person, at best I would have 3rd hand information, since that person would not speak to anyone who would speak to -me-.

* if there was even a glimmer of truth to it.